Eurogamer dropping review scores

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i think this is better than numbers. i respect the decision. people bytch and moan about payola or bias, this is less corruptible.
How so? I don't believe in the 'buy reviews' conspiracy, but let's say for the sake of argument that it's true. Can't devs/publishers still pay off reviewers to write glowing reviews and give them 'recommended' or 'essential' ratings. I don't see how this changes anything.
 

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Do you know how many games come out each week? Metacritic exposes you to games you would never have heard about. Like I just bought this game called LISA on the pc that I never would of heard of if it wasn't for metacritic. It's dark as hell and right up my alley. I would NEVER of heard about it if it wasn't for metacritic.

Y'all are forgetting metacritic gives exposure to indies that you'd never hear about anywhere else. "Oh this game got an 85? Let me read about that and check it out." Without that shyt, we're just gonna be playing big name games that have humongous advertising budgets.

Without reviews, it's all gonna be based on advertising. fukk that shyt :camby:

It's done that way anyways, so many bought scores so that they can have game covers looking like this.

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You may miss a game, you may not. I too have gotten games off of the beaten path. That said, down with scores.
 

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How so? I don't believe in the 'buy reviews' conspiracy, but let's say for the sake of argument that it's true. Can't devs/publishers still pay off reviewers to write glowing reviews and give them 'recommended' or 'essential' ratings. I don't see how this changes anything.

Recommended or essential isn't as sexy as 10 out of 10. IT'S AWESOME!!!! for a tagline.
 

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It's done that way anyways, so many bought scores so that they can have game covers looking like this.

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You may miss a game, you may not. I too have gotten games off of the beaten path. That said, down with scores.
2 times in 10 years of reviewers getting paid off does not make a trend. This buy reviews conspiracy theory has got to stop.
 

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Recommended or essential isn't as sexy as 10 out of 10. IT'S AWESOME!!!! for a tagline.
Every reviewer would have to do that though. 2 review sites that put seals on shyt now isn't anything. Plus, if all review sites move to the qualitative rating system, you'll just see "essential" on the goty editions. Nothing changes
 

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Do you know how many games come out each week? Metacritic exposes you to games you would never have heard about. Like I just bought this game called LISA on the pc that I never would of heard of if it wasn't for metacritic. It's dark as hell and right up my alley. I would NEVER of heard about it if it wasn't for metacritic.

Y'all are forgetting metacritic gives exposure to indies that you'd never hear about anywhere else. "Oh this game got an 85? Let me read about that and check it out." Without that shyt, we're just gonna be playing big name games that have humongous advertising budgets.

Without reviews, it's all gonna be based on advertising. fukk that shyt :camby:

Other go-to gaming websites be having those games as well and not necessarily dependent upon an aggregate site like MC. Also, some review places be missing from there anyway.
 

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I really don't get this "I hate numbers and reviews" trend we see here on the coli. It makes no sense to me :mindblown:

What are you gonna do instead? Buy every game? Listen to biased users and fanboys? Watch every twitch stream of the dozens of games that come out every week?

Without reviews, hype will be king. People will buy games off the hype alone. Advertising will make you decide to buy a game or not. Why would anybody want that?

Reviews have been, and will continue to be, essential to the video game industry. Very few people have the money to buy every game that comes out.
 

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I really don't get this "I hate numbers and reviews" trend we see here on the coli. It makes no sense to me :mindblown:

What are you gonna do instead? Buy every game? Listen to biased users and fanboys? Watch every twitch stream of the dozens of games that come out every week?
Don't people do that anyway?? People buy into hype, hell on the contrary review scores makes it even worse. How many people fell into the Halo MCC hype and got burned?? Titanfall?? SOM?? Sunset Overdrive?? (I'm not saying the latter are bad just making a point.)

The best you can do is find people who have similar taste to you and get recommendations from them as well as using videos and your own judgement on whether a title is worth copping. If I'm a fighting game fan for example, I'd probably ask cats on here that's heavy into the fighting game threads their opinions. Hell, sometimes an extra voice is helpful. I put a lot of cats on Driveclub earlier this year and most were pretty surprised to see it was better than they thought. The price drop though also played a big role in that.


And on top of that, you're not going to be interested in EVERY game that's coming out so it's not like one would need to be online all day checking out videos...

Without reviews, hype will be king. People will buy games off the hype alone. Advertising will make you decide to buy a game or not. Why would anybody want that?
People do that already. Reviews fuel hype. It's much easier to hype a game up more with review scores to attach to the marketing. Titanfall anyone??

Reviews have been, and will continue to be, essential to the video game industry. Very few people have the money to buy every game that comes out

And there goes my point, everyone doesn't buy every game and one doesn't need to buy a game day 1 at $60 a pop.

I don't look forward to every game coming out in a year. I agree that MC exposes some games that you may not have been checking out but that's also why forums are good to check out too. I played games based off of forum recommendations and loved them before checking their review scores for titles like Guacamelee, 999 for the DS, Persona 4, Danganronpa etc. Those games barely got recognition on mainstream sites.
 

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Other go-to gaming websites be having those games as well and not necessarily dependent upon an aggregate site like MC. Also, some review places be missing from there anyway.
Not for these obscure indies. Plus, what I gotta do, read 150 reviews for games now (or even worse, just trust one review site)? I like to read positive, medium, and negative reviews of games. metacritic allows me to easily do that. Without numbers, I'm stuck reading 80 reviews or some bullshyt. I'm not making reading reviews my new hobby, and I'm not letting advertising influence my decision to buy a game either.

Metacritic is a great tool. I still have no idea why people hate it so much. It all started with Destiny. That shyt got reviews in the 70s and everybody turned on metacritic. Users don't even like that game either. I don't know what the big deal is.

If you don't like reviews, don't read em, and buy games based on hype. If that's your prerogative, then so be it. I for one love metacritic and use it as a tool to buy games. If it goes away, I'll just go buy steam reviews or user reviews (but it's much harder for me to trust those people).

I literally do not have time to read 100 reviews for a game. I don't think anybody does. You read glowing reviews, mediocre reviews, and bad reviews. That gives you a good idea of what that game is about. The number helps point you to a game you might have missed cuz it doesn't have a million dollar marketing budget. shyt is such a helpful tool. Why do people hate it so much? :mindblown:
 

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Ciggavelli wiil kill himself if they were to drop numbers all together :mjlol: Cant make up your own mind brehs
 

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Don't people do that anyway?? People buy into hype, hell on the contrary review scores makes it even worse. How many people fell into the Halo MCC hype and got burned?? Titanfall?? SOM?? Sunset Overdrive?? (I'm not saying the latter are bad just making a point.)

The best you can do is find people who have similar taste to you and get recommendations from them as well as using videos and your own judgement on whether a title is worth copping. If I'm a fighting game fan for example, I'd probably ask cats on here that's heavy into the fighting game threads their opinions. Hell, sometimes an extra voice is helpful. I put a lot of cats on Driveclub earlier this year and most were pretty surprised to see it was better than they thought. The price drop though also played a big role in that.


And on top of that, you're not going to be interested in EVERY game that's coming out so it's not like one would need to be online all day checking out videos...


People do that already. Reviews fuel hype. It's much easier to hype a game up more with review scores to attach to the marketing. Titanfall anyone??



And there goes my point, everyone doesn't buy every game and one doesn't need to buy a game day 1 at $60 a pop.

I don't look forward to every game coming out in a year. I agree that MC exposes some games that you may not have been checking out but that's also why forums are good to check out too. I played games based off of forum recommendations and loved them such before checking out review scores for titles like Guacamelee, 999 for the DS, Persona 4, Danganronpa etc. Those games barely got recognition on mainstream sites.
See, I don't trust forum users that much. I bough Sunset OD and Shadow of Mordor based on coli hype. I was disappointed with both. People on forums have agendas (yes, yes, I know you could say that for reviewers too, but I don't subscribe to that opinion).

If metacritic goes away, I'm just gonna go buy user reviews I guess. I've been using steam's user review shyt for a while now. It's not ideal, but it's better than buying a game completely blind.
 

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Ciggavelli wiil kill himself if they were to drop numbers all together :mjlol: Cant make up your own mind brehs
I have over 500 games on steam. I buy a lot of shyt and that certainly isn't based solely on reviews. I buy games I think I'll like, despite the reviews. If numbers go away, I'll just find a new strategy.

I like to make informed decisions. If we go by the coli, you should just buy games cuz of advertising or gut feelings. That's not the way I work.
 

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See, I don't trust forum users that much. I bough Sunset OD and Shadow of Mordor based on coli hype. I was disappointed with both. People on forums have agendas (yes, yes, I know you could say that for reviewers too, but I don't subscribe to that opinion).

If metacritic goes away, I'm just gonna go buy user reviews I guess. I've been using steam's user review shyt for a while now. It's not ideal, but it's better than buying a game completely blind.
That's on you.. If I were to ask opinions on a specific game just to hear what the players are saying, i'd want to get opinions from a bunch of folks and not just known fanboys. Everyone on here has some sort of bias or agenda but when pointed out, we gasp like "Huh, not me!!?" :laugh:

I see bias from everyone on here. Hell, I stay pullin @daze23 legs from time to time as I see it come out in his posts occasionally(especially with PS4 exclusives :mjlol:.)

I just think a video or two should suffice. Hell you asked me about Persona 4 golden and despite it having really high scores(93), you're still on the fence since you talked about not liking RPG games like that. :yeshrug:
 

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That's on you.. If I were to ask opinions on a specific game just to hear what the players are saying, i'd want to get opinions from a bunch of folks and not just known fanboys. Everyone on here has some sort of bias or agenda but when pointed out, we gasp like "Huh, not me!!?" :laugh:

I see bias from everyone on here. Hell, I stay pullin @daze23 legs from time to time as I see it come out in his posts occasionally(especially with PS4 exclusives :mjlol:.)

I just think a video or two should suffice. Hell you asked me about Persona 4 golden and despite it having really high scores(93), you're still on the fence since you talked about not liking RPG games like that. :yeshrug:
Yeah, I don't buy all games that get an 85+ (Persona 4 being a good example. I'm on the fence cuz of the combat). I use my 85+ strategy to look into games deeper. I have many strategies when buying games. 85+ is one that hasn't done me wrong. I also know what kind of games I like and will buy a game in the low 80s or 70s if I know it's my shyt (like Captain Toad). I like to have a lot of tools in my toolbox. I don't want my metacritic tool taken away. But if it is, I'll live.
 
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