Even after removing the Kinect & lowering price, XB1 Sales still slow. Time for M$ to scrap Xbox?

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Just look at the weekly sales numbers :heh:


http://seekingalpha.com/article/2384005-microsofts-xbox-one-is-failing?app=1&uprof=51



Microsoft's Xbox One Is Failing
Aug. 5, 2014 4:05 PM ET | 4 comments | About: Microsoft Corporation (MSFT), Includes: NTDOY, SNE
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Summary
  • Microsoft introduced a version of its Xbox One video game console in June without the Kinect peripheral.
  • This removed the price advantage that the PlayStation 4 had, but it has done little to close the sales gap.
  • The Xbox One is still selling far worse than the competition, and it may be time for Microsoft to consider spinning off or selling the division.
During Microsoft's (NASDAQ:MSFT) second quarter, the company sold a total of 1.1 million video game consoles, including both the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One. This was only a 10% increase in unit sales year-over-year, a surprisingly small increase that was partly due to excess retail inventory. But looking at unit sales over the past few months, Microsoft has bigger problems than excess inventory, with Sony's (NYSE:SNE) PlayStation 4 and even Nintendo's (OTCPK:NTDOY) Wii U trouncing the Xbox One. The situation looks dire for Microsoft.

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A price cut was not enough
Microsoft released a version of its Xbox One console without the Kinect peripheral on June 9 for $399, $100 less than the version with Kinect and the same price as Sony's PlayStation 4. This lower price helped sales of Microsoft's console, but the PlayStation 4 is still soundly outselling the Xbox One.

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Source: VGChartz

Prior to the Kinect-less version of the Xbox One, the console was averaging around 40,000 units per week. This rose about 50% to 60,000 per week after the lower price was introduced, but that's still roughly half of the weekly sales of Sony's PlayStation 4.

Even Nintendo's Wii U, which was selling extremely poorly in May with less than 30,000 units per week, is now about even with the Xbox One after therelease of Mario Kart 8 at the end of May. The blockbuster game led to a few weeks of extremely strong sales for the Wii U, and it helped to reignite interest in the Wii U console.

Why is the Xbox One still selling so poorly? Part of the problem is that third-party titles simply perform better on the PlayStation 4. The recent hit Watch Dogs, for example, runs at a resolution of 900p on the PlayStation 4 at 30 frames per second, but is limited to 792p on the Xbox One. It may be difficult to tell the difference for most people, but this is the kind of thing that undecided gamers look at before buying a console. So even though the prices are now the same for both consoles, Sony's PlayStation 4 still has a significant advantage.

Is it time for Microsoft to ditch the Xbox?
With the Xbox making up a tiny portion of Microsoft's revenue, even a successful console wouldn't have much of an effect on the bottom line. CEO Satya Nadella recently laid out Microsoft's strategy, classifying the company as "a productivity and platform company for the mobile-first and cloud-first world," and the Xbox doesn't really fit in with this vision.

Although Nadella defended the Xbox, Microsoft is an enterprise facing company first, and the Xbox appears to be more of a distraction for the company than anything else. The Xbox is neither mobile-first nor cloud-first, and it might make sense for Microsoft to spin-off the unit.

On the other hand, the Xbox gives Microsoft a gateway to the living room. The Xbox One was pushed from the beginning as more than just a gaming machine, and with Google, Apple, and Amazon making plays for the living room, having an established brand could be valuable for Microsoft, allowing the company to push its services through the console. This strategy requires the company to be able to actually sell the console, though, something that it's struggling with currently.

The Xbox is not a large part of Microsoft. The computing and gaming hardware segment recorded revenue of $9.6 billion during fiscal 2014, with the Xbox accounting for about $6.7 billion of this total. That's 7.7% of Microsoft's total revenue, but the gross profit from the whole segment represents just 1.5% of Microsoft's total gross profit. In other words, the Xbox is not a significant source of profits.

Whether the Xbox unit is spun-off or kept, it will have little direct impact on Microsoft's bottom line. But a spin-off or sale could generate billions of dollars for Microsoft that could be used for share buybacks, thus boosting per-share earnings. Keeping the unit won't accomplish very much of anything, except for lowering the company's margins, so for investors, getting rid of the Xbox would have positive implications.

Conclusion
Even after a price cut, Microsoft's Xbox One is getting dominated by Sony's PlayStation 4, and Nintendo's resurgent Wii U is battling it for second place. There are pros and cons to a potential Xbox spin-off, but with the Xbox not quite fitting in with Microsoft's new strategy, removing a distraction might be the best course of action for Microsoft.

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That isn't a legitimate source.
 

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:heh:This ain't even fair no more. Time to take old yeller out back and put a bullet in him.
 

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no you're wrong. the ps3 was Almost the grown man's system. for example, i was pushing people to buy that system and i didnt even buy it myself in the end.

the reason i was pushing it was because it had a blu-ray player while blu-ray were sky high in price. i said no matter how you slice it. you will come up on top with a PS3 if you are a serious movie watcher that is into high quallity video(you have a nice HD TV). you might as well get that blu-ray player that also doubles as a gaming system. and lasty, the fact its connected to the internet means its firmware will get constant updates. so even when the blu-ray specs change from disc to disc..year to year. you will always be up to date. and i was right.

me personally i realized i watch flicks. but not like that. i dont buy dvds, therefore i surely wont be buying Blu-rays.
if i watch something. i'm watching it on cable on demand in HD(no worries about my internet being fast enough at the time i'm watching). now that stupid time warner has finally upped my internet speed to something legit. i can stream my HD movies via my xbox without having to bring my laptop into the living room. its already a go.

again, the xbox one was this consoles GROWN MAN system. "XBOX ON" thats on some grown man stuff. kids dont care about that stuff. they want games, games and more games. and thats ll they want. remember all the complaints about xbox's first showing "where da games at?" i was watching that same footage thinking "wow this is nice."
thats cause i'm a grown a... man. So i dont need 100 games that i would never finish. I need a few solid games. and i'm good. so that means for me to shell out 400 you need to come with the features(xbox kinect...fitness) uh oh..game changing..
Actually it's the opposite son. Children are excited:krs: to say "larry box, on" and then are like all giddy after saying it a few times and it finally turns on like:gladbron:.

Grown Men don't need that for a thrill. Just saying you had it backwards.
 

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Actually it's the opposite son. Children are excited:krs: to say "larry box, on" and then are like all giddy after saying it a few times and it finally turns on like:gladbron:.

Grown Men don't need that for a thrill. Just saying you had it backwards.
sorry you have it backwards. grown men always need the newest latest electronics for a thrill. so slide on by me with that reply. the kinect using hand motions/gestures and voice activation has been in sci-fi for decades. when us current GROWN MEN were kids. we saw that stuff growing up in those movies. So we always wanted it when we grew up. Since adults were the ones using these accessories in these movies. minority report. Tom C. moving his hands around. full grown men were in the theater like :krs: I need that in my life. If you say otherwise you're lying to yourself. stop it.

Thats like saying grown men dont need to have keyless remotes for their cars, or the ability to now start your engine from your remote/cell phone. stop it.

new tech = Grown man Toy
super video gaming box only = gaming toy for a big time Gamer(kid or adult)

New tech doubling as a gaming system = Xbox one
super video gaming box only = PS4

this isnt me going to war with PS either.

I told yall the PS3 when it first dropped was the grown man system at the time. due to the addition of a Blu-Ray player. at that time. Blu-Ray players were New Tech. Grown men could appreciate a blu-ray movie on their brand new HD TV.

PS3=Grown man system
Xbox 360 = Gaming box only


They've switched roles. But i know. the stanleys can only see a win for Sony. no matter what happens.
 

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sorry you have it backwards. grown men always need the newest latest electronics for a thrill. so slide on by me with that reply. the kinect using hand motions/gestures and voice activation has been in sci-fi for decades. when us current GROWN MEN were kids. we saw that stuff growing up in those movies. So we always wanted it when we grew up. Since adults were the ones using these accessories in these movies. minority report. Tom C. moving his hands around. full grown men were in the theater like :krs: I need that in my life. If you say otherwise you're lying to yourself. stop it.

Thats like saying grown men dont need to have keyless remotes for their cars, or the ability to now start your engine from your remote/cell phone. stop it.

new tech = Grown man Toy
super video gaming box only = gaming toy for a big time Gamer(kid or adult)

New tech doubling as a gaming system = Xbox one
super video gaming box only = PS4

this isnt me going to war with PS either.

I told yall the PS3 when it first dropped was the grown man system at the time. due to the addition of a Blu-Ray player. at that time. Blu-Ray players were New Tech. Grown men could appreciate a blu-ray movie on their brand new HD TV.

PS3=Grown man system
Xbox 360 = Gaming box only


They've switched roles. But i know. the stanleys can only see a win for Sony. no matter what happens.


Sorry, you have it backwards.

Grown men are not interested in dancing in front of the TV with orbs or talking to it for some form of :gladbron:.

You have it wrong, sorry.
 

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Let's not be prisoners of the moment,
Yes the PS4 is outselling the X1 3:1 last time I checked.

However the Xbone is at the same time selling better that the 360 in the same time period 8 years ago

Fact is both consoles (with the PS4 leading) are breaking console sales records so far.

So it really is a win win for very real gamer and a stab in the neck for every fool claiming mobile n PC is the future.

Both consoles will be more than fine :ahh:

Now you know better then to use logic in the arcadium...
 

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So now vgchartz can be added along with amazon ,forbes, ign and gamespot as "bullshyt sources" according to Xbots



Peasant life :mjlol:

Are these dudes serious, breh??? :krs: I cant believe they think "Forbes" "VGchartz" and "Gamespot" is bullshyt... next thing you know they be like The "WSJ" doesnt have all the facts about microsoft xbox one loosing money....

:mjlol:
 

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Are these dudes serious, breh??? :krs: I cant believe they think "Forbes" "VGchartz" and "Gamespot" is bullshyt... next thing you know they be like The "WSJ" doesnt have all the facts about microsoft xbox one loosing money....

:mjlol:

USAtoday and IGN are next.... :troll:
 

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Sorry, you have it backwards.

Grown men are not interested in dancing in front of the TV with orbs or talking to it for some form of :gladbron:.

You have it wrong, sorry.
you my friend are going off of your own personal opinion and not reality.

so lets give you some reality.
random youtube vid pulled for xbox one ON.




yep... just like i said. a Grown Mans option. thats all. didnt say this one is better then that one. its a grown man's option. grown men love new tech.

this grown man (with gut and all is so excited he made a 7 min video about it)

 
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They have not released anything good on the xbox one yet. Even their media stuff is behind. :snoop:@ them not releasing an hbo app when game of thrones season was on
 
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