Even with college degrees, blacks struggle to launch careers

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Job market is rough, though.

The huge influx of college grads the past 10 years is starting to catch up with the economy. And non-STEM graduates are in the worst shape. Because at least a STEM degree can be parlayed into a Masters/Doctorate, so you can get an industry job.

A lot of students are taking clerical, retail, administrative, and government jobs that barely require a high school degree. New York times ran a story about a job for a mail clerk that required a bachelor's degree.

I think the story in 5 or 10 years will be people are graduating with a bachelor's degree but settling for an entry level position at Sensormatic.

Not sure what this guy did in college, but if you get a degree in a field that is not hot, you should be on your grind with internships and part-time work in your field.
That itself made it harder for whites but when you add the fact that no matter how tough the job market is for whites it will be 2x as tough for blacks it makes my guess still likely to be true

Never talk as if we are treated the same as whites by white employers because it will be incorrect. We always have added difficulty. Never forget that
 

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Three issues:
1. The majority of degrees Black students get aren't career-forming degrees. You get a liberal arts degree, Communications, English, Political Science, Theatre, anything like that, and you don't graduate from a Ivy league, or top-50 school, you aren't going to magically get a job.
2. STEM has never meant "automatic job" a Chem or Bio degree is useless unless you a.) become a high school teacher with that degree or b) get a higher education PhD, MD, etc. Mathematics is good for finance, and Engineering is pretty straightforward, but lackluster grades (and the median Black graduating GPA is like a 2.7) will hold you back, as will not having attained a higher education with it.
3. They're Black. Its not just immediate discrimination that's holding them back, its also the schools they are attending, and the connections they don't have. If you don't have a mom or dad with connections to help you get a job, you're being a held back, something a lot of White people aren't being as held back by. Also there is a higher concentration of Black students at lower-ranked schools, so even with the degree, the perception of it will not be as favorable. Something needs to be done about this.
#3 is a bunch of excuse, I have seen many a white folk with liberal arts degree cross over to a field they did not major in, and even get promoted.

Blacks gotta call out white racism when, where and however they see if, because it exists, dont marginalize yourself, when you are qualified and reside within racist environment, self haters, who want to find any excuse to say your are not qualified for a role.

Obviously, blacks most be in competitive fields, and be competitive, but too many c00n blacks dont get the bigger picture.

Do for yourself, what you want other people to do for you, in the grand scheme of hiring practices and establish businesses. Be in position of excelling well, and hiring all kinds of people, not just black people.

Dont model yourself after white people you think are better than you...be a better self, better than the white people, you think are better than you, the same one onces, you are overqualified to be around or be with.
 

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That itself made it harder for whites but when you add the fact that no matter how tough the job market is for whites it will be 2x as tough for blacks it makes my guess still likely to be true

Never talk as if we are treated the same as whites by white employers because it will be incorrect. We always have added difficulty. Never forget that


I graduated from Pharmacy school in 2005, it felt like the land of milk and honey for all college degrees during those days.

Then the market crashed in '07, and now there are way too many college grads for the amount of jobs out there. Excess is what the market been trying to regulate for almost 10 years now.

Some of the grads coming out of FAMU (a HBCU) uses their non-STEM degree to get any job, college was about getting skills and a strong knowledge base.

The guy in the article is doing himself no favors with the high top fade, and truthfully whether you are white or black, corporate America hates hippies and hipsters. You don't have too c00n, I never did, the thing about c00ning is they trying to be safe and not offend. Also, its a shortcut so they don't have to develop a personality.

He'll eventually get something average, until he finds something better, he does himself no favors waiting on his dream job. I'm savvy enough to make moves now, but I can see my 22 year old self getting real frustrated looking for a job for over a year.
 

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I graduated from Pharmacy school in 2005, it felt like the land of milk and honey for all college degrees during those days.

Then the market crashed in '07, and now there are way too many college grads for the amount of jobs out there. Excess is what the market been trying to regulate for almost 10 years now.

Some of the grads coming out of FAMU (a HBCU) uses their non-STEM degree to get any job, college was about getting skills and a strong knowledge base.

The guy in the article is doing himself no favors with the high top fade, and truthfully whether you are white or black, corporate America hates hippies and hipsters. You don't have too c00n, I never did, the thing about c00ning is they trying to be safe and not offend. Also, its a shortcut so they don't have to develop a personality.

He'll eventually get something average, until he finds something better, he does himself no favors being in denial because knowing is half the battle. But for now he'll be on his grind, because the job market is not easy. I'm savvy enough to make moves now, but I can see my 22 year old self getting real frustrated looking for a job for over a year.
No matter how much you c00n your skin doesn't change.

c00ning will only last as long as they have to "tolerate" you. Best believe a c00n isn't getting a iob before a white guy lol.

Its all good if your for yourself only but collective wise c00ning doesn't work.

You get in whIle many others fall and no matter what happens your the first to go and last to get promoted in most cases.

Starting businesses become more and more of a need these days
 

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Landed my Finance job out of college after a year of searching. No internship, no connections. I didn't move up the ladder like I thought I would bc my ass kissing game is weak and I am too honest of a person. Best believe my next gig I'm lying, cheating, doing whatever, fukk'em:myman:
 

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What this generation is going through to get jobs is unheard of in any part in American History. For anyone to go through those extreme means just to get a job is inhumane. That reason alone, these institutions of education deserved to be sued because they can't serve their only purpose.
Well, college purpose was never to get a job. College was rich people shyt. Still is to an extent. The issue is jobs that once needn't a postsecondary education now require one. College is knowledge to apply to the real world. I studied economics and I already know the mechanisms so it is a reason why I do not stress.

Imagine the brother with just a high school education for a second. Outside of public gigs and dwindling union jobs, shyt is bleak.
 

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No matter how much you c00n your skin doesn't change.

c00ning will only last as long as they have to "tolerate" you. Best believe a c00n isn't getting a iob before a white guy lol.

Its all good if your for yourself only but collective wise c00ning doesn't work.

You get in whIle many others fall and no matter what happens your the first to go and last to get promoted in most cases.

Starting businesses become more and more of a need these days

Its crazy reading stories of all these college grads still working at Starbucks and likewise.

I think a lot of non-Stem graduates are going back to school to study something else, or use the skills they learned in college to leverage/fast track themselves into entry level/middle management positions. They are not going to be stock boys or flipping burgers.
 

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Its crazy reading stories of all these college grads still working at Starbucks and likewise.

I think a lot of non-Stem graduates are going back to school to study something else, or use the skills they learned in college to leverage/fast track themselves into entry level/middle management positions. They are not going to be stock boys or flipping burgers.
The racial factor exists here as well.

Best believe that the scenario you describing is more likely to happen to blalck people.
 

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What this generation is going through to get jobs is unheard of in any part in American History. For anyone to go through those extreme means just to get a job is inhumane. That reason alone, these institutions of education deserved to be sued because they can't serve their only purpose.
This isn't an American phenomenon. All over the world people are finding it hard to find jobs in the sector they studied. I have a cousin who has a master's in psychology. She's a bank teller. I was lucky I banked alot with my nursing degree.

The idea that you can live knowing just one thing shouldn't even be repeated anymore.
 

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No matter how much you c00n your skin doesn't change.

c00ning will only last as long as they have to "tolerate" you. Best believe a c00n isn't getting a iob before a white guy lol.

Its all good if your for yourself only but collective wise c00ning doesn't work.

You get in whIle many others fall and no matter what happens your the first to go and last to get promoted in most cases.

Starting businesses become more and more of a need these days
Never missed a day, been in top form for wherever those Jews needed me and once they cleared house on a piece of shyt department I was in a chick, my homegirl, who came to work 30 minutes late everyday didn't get cut. That's how cacs play. I wasn't a c00n or kissed ass. I was going to leave that shyt anyways but was trying to keep until income tax came through. :yeshrug:
 

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Every African American male/female that I went to college with, got a job in thier field <6 months after graduation.

The fields were Law,Finance, IT, Accounting, Human Resources, and Education.

Literally, all of them got jobs, making 45k+.

They're all working and doing just fine.
 

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Every African American male/female that I went to college with, got a job in thier field <6 months after graduation.

The fields were Law,Finance, IT, Accounting, Human Resources, and Education.

Literally, all of them got jobs, making 45k+.

They're all working and doing just fine.
Those are job-specific degrees. Most people jammed up do have degrees like that.
 
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