Everyone needs to be aware of the upcoming SCOTUS ruling this Fall - Moore v Harper..... It could literally END American Democracy

[Chrishaune]

Yawn at the prospect of millions of black people being disenfranchised breh.

If the people are paying attention and accept the truth they won't be.


But a lot of people don't want to accept the truth, so......

 

[Micky Mikey]

If the people are paying attention and accept the truth they won't be.

Ok breh

 

[richaveli83]

Yawn at the prospect of millions of black people being disenfranchised breh.

Black people have been disenfranchised in this country for centuries.

 

[RamsayBolton]

Black people have been disenfranchised in this country for centuries.

Yeah I'm sure the life of black people in America now will be indistinguishable from the life of black people in a completely white supremacist United States where DeSantis or Trump republicans are running everything with no threat to their rule

 

[Elim Garak]

The Dems really need to flood the airwaves with urgent messaging. And stop using pelosi or any dem who lacks the gift of gab, as a mouthpiece.

When the republicans spew their hate they do it with assurance, one that insinuates they’re aware there won’t be any serious ramifications.

The old democratic leadership has to go it's the only way.

 

[Micky Mikey]

The old democratic leadership has to go it's the only way.

Agreed. They're completely out of touch.

 

[richaveli83]

Yeah I'm sure the life of black people in America now will be indistinguishable from the life of black people in a completely white supremacist United States where DeSantis or Trump republicans are running everything with no threat to their rule

The United States was founded on white supremacy and as long as it's a country it will continue to be a white supremacist country. Things might be a little better under a less racist democrat but it's still a white supremacist country.

 

[Micky Mikey]

The United States was founded on white supremacy and as long as it's a country it will continue to be a white supremacist country. Things might be a little better under a less racist democrat but it's still a white supremacist country.

So essentially you're saying there will be no noticeable difference when the US is under one party rule with no checks and balances?

 

[RamsayBolton]

The United States was founded on white supremacy and as long as it's a country it will continue to be a white supremacist country. Things might be a little better under a less racist democrat but it's still a white supremacist country.

A "little better" he says. Pure ignorance, and millions of black people died so you could have the right to type it.
Yes this is a white supremacist country, NO it will not be only marginally worse if today's republicans seize total control over it.

Guess we already forgot about Buffalo and "Great Replacement Theory".

 

[richaveli83]

So essentially you're saying there will be no noticeable difference when the US is under one party rule with no checks and balances?

For black people, yes. Civil rights legislation was passed in the 60s and then we got the war on drugs/war on crime, crack epidemic, mass incarceration,the further militarization of the police, etc. Of course things have gotten better for black people in the last 50 years but our condition as a whole is still fukked up.

 

[voltronblack]

For black people, yes. Civil rights legislation was passed in the 60s and then we got the war on drugs/war on crime, crack epidemic, mass incarceration,the further militarization of the police, etc. Of course things have gotten better for black people in the last 50 years but our condition as a whole is still fukked up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/26/report-no-progress-for-african-americans-on-homeownership-unemployment-and-incarceration-in-50-years/

Convened to examine the causes of civil unrest in black communities, the presidential commission issued a 1968 report with a stark conclusion: America was moving toward two societies, “one black, one white — separate and unequal.”

Fifty years after the historic Kerner Commission identified “white racism” as the key cause of “pervasive discrimination in employment, education and housing,” there has been no progress in how African Americans fare in comparison to whites when it comes to homeownership, unemployment and incarceration, according to a report released Monday by the Economic Policy Institute.
In some cases, African Americans are worse off today than they were before the civil rights movement culminated in laws barring housing and voter discrimination, as well as racial segregation.

• 7.5 percent of African Americans were unemployed in 2017, compared with 6.7 percent in 1968 — still roughly twice the white unemployment rate.

• The rate of homeownership, one of the most important ways for working- and middle-class families to build wealth, has remained virtually unchanged for African Americans in the past 50 years. Black homeownership remains just over 40 percent, trailing 30 points behind the rate for whites, who have seen modest gains during that time.

• The share of incarcerated African Americans has nearly tripled between 1968 and 2016 — one of the largest and most depressing developments in the past 50 years, especially for black men, researchers said. African Americans are 6.4 times as likely than whites to be jailed or imprisoned, compared with 5.4 times as likely in 1968.

“We have not seen progress because we still have not addressed the issue of racial inequality in this country,” said John Schmitt, an economist and vice president of the Economic Policy Institute, citing the racial wealth gap and continuing racial discrimination in the labor and housing markets. “One of the key issues is the disadvantages so many African Americans face, right from the very beginning as children.”

The wealth gap between white and black Americans has more than tripled in the past 50 years, according to Federal Reserve data. The typical black family had zero wealth in 1968. Today the median net worth of white families — $171,000 — is 10 times that of black families.
The wealth black families have accumulated is negligible when it comes to the amount of money needed to meet basic needs during retirement, pay for children’s college education, put a down payment on a house, or cope with a job loss or medical crisis, Schmitt said.
Bolster black banks — and in the process, uplift a community that has been systematically marginalized for generations
The lack of economic progress is especially startling, given that black educational attainment has improved significantly in the past five decades, Schmitt said. African Americans are almost as likely as whites to have completed high school. In 1968, 54 percent of blacks graduated from high school, compared with 75 percent of whites. Today, more than 90 percent of African Americans have a high school diploma, 3.3 percentage points shy of the high school completion rate for whites.


The share of young African Americans with a college degree has more than doubled, to 23 percent, since 1968, although blacks are still half as likely as whites to have completed college.
Yet the hourly wage of a typical black worker grew by just 0.6 percent a year since 1968. African Americans make 82.5 cents of every dollar earned by the typical white worker, the report said. And the typical black household earns 61.6 percent of the annual income of white households, with black college graduates continuing to make less than white college graduates.
Despite the poverty rate dropping from more than a third of black households in 1968 to about a fifth of black households, African Americans are 2½ times as likely to be in poverty than whites.

“We would have expected to see much more of a narrowing of the gap, given the big increase in educational attainment among African Americans,” Schmitt said.

A book, “Healing Our Divided Society,” to be released Tuesday at a D.C. forum, also examines how little progress has been made in the past 50 years.
Housing and schools have become resegregated, “locking too many African Americans into slums and their children into inferior schools.” White supremacists have become emboldened. And there is too much excessive use of force — often deadly — by police, especially against African Americans, notes the book, co-edited by Fred Harris, a former U.S. senator and sole surviving member of the Kerner Commission.

“Whereas the Kerner Commission called for ‘massive and sustained’ investment in economic, employment and education initiatives, over the last 50 years America has pursued ‘massive and sustained’ incarceration framed as ‘law and order,’ ” the book says. “Mass incarceration has become a kind of housing policy for the poor.”

The 1968 Kerner Commission report ended on a note of deja vu, citing a witness who recalled similar analyses, recommendations and, ultimately, inaction following a government investigation nearly 50 years earlier after the 1919 Chicago riot.
“The destruction and the bitterness of racial disorder, the harsh polemics of black revolt and white repression have been seen and heard before in this country,” the report concluded.

 

[richaveli83]

A "little better" he says. Pure ignorance, and millions of black people died so you could have the right to type it.
Yes this is a white supremacist country, NO it will not be only marginally worse if today's republicans seize total control over it.

Guess we already forgot about Buffalo and "Great Replacement Theory".

Yes because future Buffalo's, Dylan Roof, police brutality, hate crimes against black people will magically disappear because we have a less racist cracker is in office.

Do I want republicans to have complete control? Absolutely not but I'm under no illusion that having democrats in control is going make things 100% better for black people in this country.

 

[Micky Mikey]

For black people, yes. Civil rights legislation was passed in the 60s and then we got the war on drugs/war on crime, crack epidemic, mass incarceration,the further militarization of the police, etc. Of course things have gotten better for black people in the last 50 years but our condition as a whole is still fukked up.

Yes our condition is still fukked up and that is with minor checks and balances and the slight ability to choose our political representatices. Imagine what types of state sponsored oppression will be justified under a regime that has no checks and balances and where we are completely stripped of our ability to choose our representatives. I think you are grossly underestimating how mad things will get.

America didn't become a Democracy until the 1960s (when we as black people fought for it). Since that time white supremacists have tried to do everything in their power to both hold back progress and disempower black people through legal means. This is a long drawn out fight. To throw up your hands and say well things cannot possibly get any worse is extremely naive and short sighted. Do you seriously think a people who just attempted a coup, are calling for violence against their political opponents in the open public, and have the full power of SCOTUS behind them will have limits to their desire to exert and maintain power?

 

[Mowgli]

 

[get these nets]

This upcoming ruling will be far more consequential than Roe v Wade. If SCOTUS decides to rule in its favor America is done done. Your vote will not matter and you will have ZERO representation. The media is far too silent on the consequences of this upcoming ruling imo.

This would effectively give all the power to state legislators to decide the fate of elections. Currently Republicans are in control of a majority of state legislators in key states across the country. If SCOTUS rules in favor of this we'll have one party rule. The Dems and Biden are twidling their thumbs while we're on the brink of becoming a one party state. Maximum pressure needs to be put on Biden to expand the courts ASAP.

A new Supreme Court case is the biggest threat to US democracy since January 6

Moore v. Harper is a grave threat to US democracy, and the fate of that democracy probably comes down to Amy Coney Barrett.

www.vox.com

Moore v. Harper - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You have good intentions, but in the wrong subforum for serious discussions.