Explain why Lebron James is better than Larry Bird

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shyt the fukk up why didn't he rehash Lebrons failures like shooting 17% from the 3 point in last years finals and 39% FG, or getting swept in the Finals, or his 17 ppg against Dallas including 1.2ppg in the Fourth quarters of that Finals.


Or how Ray Allen saved his ass for one title, and Kyrie saved his ass on the other. :camby:
 

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Y'all do know that Lebron isn't a great defender either? He's cool, serviceable, now becoming solid, but great? Which player did he shut down? He just started guarding Durant and Melo like this season. Y'all act like Lebron was locking a player up from baseline to baseline like MJ, Glove, and them. Those chase down blocks really must mean something to y'all.
 

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Y'all some gay ass soft ass NBA fans, bandwagon ass hoes.


Y'all cape for Lebron like he's the second coming of Jesus Christ :mjlol:


One question for u Lebron stans, what was your favorite team/player before Lebron :jbhmm:



Bandwagon ass hoes:beli:
You sound stupid as fukk stay off the internet or something jesus
 

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Y'all do know that Lebron isn't a great defender either? He's cool, serviceable, now becoming solid, but great? Which player did he shut down? He just started guarding Durant and Melo like this season. Y'all act like Lebron was locking a player up from baseline to baseline like MJ, Glove, and them. Those chase down blocks really must mean something to y'all.

This literally does NOT happen in the NBA from anybody......and even if it does it MAY be for 1 or 2 possessions(in 48 minutes) when they are trying to get a turnover.....hell Delly who's only in the game for defense tried this during the finals last year and needed to be taken to the hospital after a game...

and also in 13 seasons (Melo)+( playoff series) and 9 seasons (KD)+(finals series) that Lebron just started guarding them in 2016?? :russ::russ:
 
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One question for u Lebron stans, what was your favorite team/player before Lebron :jbhmm:

Clyde Drexler (1987-1996), Rasheed Wallace (1997-2003), then Brandon Roy (2006-2010). 2003-2006 was a hiatus where I was mourning the Jail Blazers and unable to cope with the idea of a favorite player. :shaq2:

I liked Lebron since he entered the league, a lot, but he wasn't my "favorite player" until Roy's knees gave out way too early.



shyt the fukk up why didn't he rehash Lebrons failures like shooting 17% from the 3 point in last years finals and 39% FG, or getting swept in the Finals,

Why should I have rehashed Lebron's failures? First off, everyone on the Coli knows every one of them by heart because they are repeated perpetually. Second, I was answering a question ABOUT BIRD.

And your facts are faulty: Lebron James shot 40% in last year's finals, including 31% from three. Doing that while averaging 36-13-9 going 1-on-5 against a far superior team can hardly be considered a "failure". Larry Bird had similarly poor shooting finals where his stats weren't nearly as impressive - I didn't include them in any "failures" list for him either, except when he was in the teens in scoring and they lost.



or his 17 ppg against Dallas including 1.2ppg in the Fourth quarters of that Finals.

I did allude to that.

"Can you imagine how much heat he would get if he was repeatedly averaging 20ppg or less over entire series? He did that ONCE and was lambasted for it, Bird did both those things at least four different times, while being worse than Lebron on the defensive end as well."

Poor reading comprehension? And, as you should have been able to see, Larry Bird averaged less than that in a series a number of times, even despite the much higher pace of the era.




Or how Ray Allen saved his ass for one title, and Kyrie saved his ass on the other. :camby:

Sorry, but someone making a shot isn't a failure. Lebron has made plenty of huge shots in the playoffs, he's had other players make huge shots too. Since Lebron already gets degraded far more for "But Ray Allen made a shot!" than any other player has for his own teammate's shot in all history, I don't see why you need to demand that I mention it. Especially since the question I was answering was about Bird, not Lebron.



Y'all do know that Lebron isn't a great defender either? He's cool, serviceable, now becoming solid, but great? Which player did he shut down? He just started guarding Durant and Melo like this season. Y'all act like Lebron was locking a player up from baseline to baseline like MJ, Glove, and them. Those chase down blocks really must mean something to y'all.



Except that....

This literally does NOT happen in the NBA from anybody......and even if it does it MAY be for 1 or 2 possessions(in 48 minutes) when they are trying to get a turnover.....hell Delly who's only in the game for defense tried this during the finals last year and needed to be taken to the hospital after a game...

and also in 13 seasons (Melo)+( playoff series) and 9 seasons (KD)+(finals series) that Lebron just started guarding them in 2016?? :russ::russ:



And when Lebron got his first All-Defensive 1st-team selection in 2009 and finished 2nd in DPOY voting in 2013, he was only "serviceable". Right. :lolbron:


There's a reason that Lebron has outscored EVERY player he's ever played 10+ times against. And I can think of times Lebron shut someone down - Paul Pierce in the 2010 WCSF, Rondo and Rose for stretches in 2010/2011, Tony Parker for a good bit of the 2013 Finals. Lebron shuts down Carmelo a lot too, who is usually almost undefendable but who averages 42% shooting for his career against Lebron.

But generally, Lebron isn't placed on a single player for an entire game, because that would only affect ONE player. He's better as a team defender who can guard anyone, switch to anyone, defend passing lanes, protect the rim, etc. He was ridiculous as an anchor for defenses in Miami and Cleveland that, man-to-man, REALLY should have been beaten up. We're talking about teams that had Joel Anthony or Chris Bosh and TT at center, Shane Battier and Kevin Love at PF, no elite defenders at the guards....and somehow they were playing great defense against elite teams? That was heavily on Lebron. In his entire 13-year career, he has NEVER played with a player who was selected to the All-Defensive team that year...and yet he's been on teams that could keep great teams shut down. That's on Lebron.

Regardless, he is a FAR better defender than Bird ever was, and there's no doubt about that at all.
 

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Y'all do know that Lebron isn't a great defender either? He's cool, serviceable, now becoming solid, but great? Which player did he shut down? He just started guarding Durant and Melo like this season. Y'all act like Lebron was locking a player up from baseline to baseline like MJ, Glove, and them. Those chase down blocks really must mean something to y'all.

:snoop: a whole post of fail.
 

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And when Lebron got his first All-Defensive 1st-team selection in 2009 and finished 2nd in DPOY voting in 2013, he was only "serviceable". Right. :lolbron:


There's a reason that Lebron has outscored EVERY player he's ever played 10+ times against. And I can think of times Lebron shut someone down - Paul Pierce in the 2010 WCSF, Rondo and Rose for stretches in 2010/2011, Tony Parker for a good bit of the 2013 Finals. Lebron shuts down Carmelo a lot too, who is usually almost undefendable but who averages 42% shooting for his career against Lebron.

But generally, Lebron isn't placed on a single player for an entire game, because that would only affect ONE player. He's better as a team defender who can guard anyone, switch to anyone, defend passing lanes, protect the rim, etc. He was ridiculous as an anchor for defenses in Miami and Cleveland that, man-to-man, REALLY should have been beaten up. We're talking about teams that had Joel Anthony or Chris Bosh and TT at center, Shane Battier and Kevin Love at PF, no elite defenders at the guards....and somehow they were playing great defense against elite teams? That was heavily on Lebron. In his entire 13-year career, he has NEVER played with a player who was selected to the All-Defensive team that year...and yet he's been on teams that could keep great teams shut down. That's on Lebron.

Regardless, he is a FAR better defender than Bird ever was, and there's no doubt about that at all.

I believe lebron has 2 runner up defensive player of year and 2 other top 5 selections for that award.
 

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Y'all do know that Lebron isn't a great defender either? He's cool, serviceable, now becoming solid, but great? Which player did he shut down? He just started guarding Durant and Melo like this season. Y'all act like Lebron was locking a player up from baseline to baseline like MJ, Glove, and them. Those chase down blocks really must mean something to y'all.

6 All defensive teams. 5 times on the first team.

You didn't even bother to check the googleometer before throwing this up against the wall. :dry:
 

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Bird was a better shooter(clearly)

LBJ is a better all-around scorer, and a slightly more efficient scorer. Me and my brother discussed this. LBJ basically won one Finals as a guard(2012), he won one as a SF(2013) and won one as a PF(2016). He's basically played as MJ, Bird, and Karl Malone in separate Finals appearances.

LBJ is also a superior defender. One of the more elite two-way players the game has ever seen. Could lock-down(not just guard, but lock down) 1-3, while playing excellent defense on 4's and smaller 5's. Imagine Bird trying to lock-down DRose in the 2011 ECF.

LBJ's also a better passer/playmaker than Bird. Although Bird was a excellent passer himself.

I have LBJ ranked 2nd all-time. I have Larry ranked somewhere in the Top 15.

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I see, none of these Bird supporters really want to get into a pass for pass showdown with Lebron:smugdraper:

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Y'all some gay ass soft ass NBA fans, bandwagon ass hoes.


Y'all cape for Lebron like he's the second coming of Jesus Christ :mjlol:


One question for u Lebron stans, what was your favorite team/player before Lebron :jbhmm:



Bandwagon ass hoes:beli:

Be a fukking crybaby bytch moron that states he can't read or argue his stupid opinion, brehs
 
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