Fast food workers strike, demanding $15 an hour

[FlyRy]

anyone who thinks these morons who cant even get an order right deserves $15 is themselves a fukking moron

 

[SuikodenII]

It'll never happen, but I wish it would

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

So has anyone addressed the issue of how they're supposed to survive on these wages WHILE they better themselves? : sayword:

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

You really don't know what you're talking about at all. First and foremost, your question, if it was not meant to suggest anything, it is then pointless because it would not relate to or defeat anything I was saying. But it did mean something because here you are harping back to the same point about teachers which shows your ignorance of labor and employment law, collective bargaining unions, and the structure of the American labor force.

Number 1, college grads are increasingly struggling to find work. Your argument flies to the contrary of every statistical barometer of the economy of the past 6 years. Literally every economic indicator points to this fact (like people moving back in with their parents). If you don't know that basic reality then you should be spectating in this conversation.

Come again . If you're not following that equates to the unemployment rate of recent college graduates being twice the national average. Your point about teachers is still irrelevant because they are paid by tax dollars and a large part of the reason they aren't paid more is because of that fact. McDonalds is not a government entity beholden to those pressures. 15 dollars an hour is unrealistic, they won't get paid that much, and I'm not sure at all if these people are unionized, but if they're not. They've got no chance. They won't be able to effectively bargain and if they were, the employer has much more leverage in the fact these people literally can't afford to go without those wages. They're in a spot where only the government can save them to be realistic.

You were trying to say that the majority of fast food workers are now all of a sudden college graduates. Then you tried to say that because of that, that fast food workers are considered skilled workers. Regardless of the employment struggles of college graduates, neither of those things you previously tried to say are true. Stop trying to change your points and then pull some statistics that didn't support your arguement in the first place, and then try and latch onto those statistics as if that was your point.

 

[Wild self]

You don't understand, that's how the game works....To put it in street terms, in order for capitilism to work, you gotta have winners and losers for lack of better terms.

Someone always has to ask do you want fries with that, or sweep the lobby, or wash your car, etc....

Until recently, the losers could live off of their wages and the economy kept on moving.

Since uber greed has set in by the 1%, cost of living and inflation has surpassed wages by a landslide and the losers can no longer eat.

Black folks used to be the losers, but now its immigrants, and that's the main reason why immigration laws will become more & more relaxed because they are sorely needed for the economy to keep functioning...

But this is short termed, and as 2nd generation children of immigrants demand fairer wages as opposed to their parents, the shyt will hit the fan, and see how much your career/dollar is gonna be worth then.

The losers make up the majority of the work force and if they can't eat, how do you expect the current economic model to sustain itself long term....

That Mexican that will cut your grass for cheaper, was black people starting around 1920 or so. Will we work for those wages now?


I don't mean any disrespect when I say losers either...

you are making too much sense. Especially these people that think that their career will lead them to actual wealth

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

ELITE!?!? I'm not even talking about myself. I haven't brought up my compensation. My simple principle in all of this is that you earn the pay you able to convince someone to pay you.

fukk I look like picketing(not getting payed mind you) to protest the compensation that I AGREED to earn for my 40 hours of work.

There are people in this thread arguing that these workers can't do anything better for themselfs, that they lack the characteristics to attain more. My arguement is that these people can be whatever they want if they just tried.

I don't wanna hear shyt, I was 18 years old sleeping on the 6 train, showering at the Y, and showing up to work at Best Buy everyday to work my shift. You don't need any economic advantages or and education to continuously make progress in life. I don't knock people who work fast food, but not in my lifetime have you been able to maintain in NYC flipping burgers.. So argue if you want too but Wendy's and White Castle are not giving these nikkas a cost of living adjustment..

Do your time, use the experience and move up in pay somewhere else!!

"But... but, but... but you're not supposed to work hard to make a living!"

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Sad how 20 years ago people could graduate from college and live a good life. Now, if you ain't IT, nursing, or accounting you broke and god be damned if you demand a better life doing something else.

Both of my brothers are fellons, one of them makes 6 figures selling used Cars, the other one is a traveling barber that does Very well. Me, I'm a corporate slave. Point is, none of us have degrees and we were all born bellow the poverty line and we live comfterbly and provide for ours..

I ain't taking no for an answer and Im not assuming I can't advance because I don't have a degree. I just don't believe people are boxed in by their circumstances. And I'm the nikka they told wasn't gonna be shyt because I wasn't interested on their history books and quadratic equations

 

[Atlrocafella]

Great Lively Debate..That's what The-Coli is all about

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

So has anyone addressed the issue of how they're supposed to survive on these wages WHILE they better themselves? : sayword:

 

[CashmereThoughts]

So has anyone addressed the issue of how they're supposed to survive on these wages WHILE they better themselves? : sayword:

Online Classes? Apply for a better job? Study for the real estate lisc test? Do hair on the side to make money? Make themselfs more valuable to the company and get promoted, night school, move to another city, enlist in the reserves, try to get a city job..

People work full time jobs, Persue they education and take care of they kids every day. You do what u gotta do to get ahead, and standing on the corner with a fukking sign not getting a paycheck ain't getting ahead

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Online Classes?

Online classes COST MONEY. I am asking how the low wage employee is supposed to afford even a bare essentials lifestyle off of a part time minimum wage job while they improve themselves. You all forget bills must still be paid during this "betterment" process.

 

[Ms~Opinionated]

Sad how 20 years ago people could graduate from college and live a good life. Now, if you ain't IT, nursing, or accounting you broke and god be damned if you demand a better life doing something else.

Yes its sad, so what are we going to do about it?

Do you think workers were sad when Bethlehem Steel shut down?
Are oil miners in Texas sad that drilling has gone offshore?
Are garment workers in NY upset sewing moved to China?
Are auto workers upset that machines made their job obsolete, while making other jobs easier?

America is in its 3rd industrial revolution. These transitions are painful for many. Each revolution put many people out of work.

The idea is not to ask for a damn thing, because change is inevitable. Instead, change yourself. Look into the future and see the big a$$ tsunami that is heading this way and get out of the way. Look into the past and learn painful lessons from others.

That is the only way. In the 1900's you had oil towns, steel towns, textile towns, lumber towns, auto towns, coal towns, sawmill towns, etc. These towns are all gone. I didn't know that Bethlehem, Canton, Youngstown, Detroit were all throbbing hubs of economic activity. You can't take a damned thing for granted, not even the $8.50 these people are probably making at Taco Bell.

Watch the tide and surf that ish, don't get washed out.

smdh @ all these people thinking someone is gonna make things better for them not realizing that people have gone through worse. You seem intelligent, but you need to open your freaking eyes, there is no white knight except yourself.

Why can't people see that?

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

Online classes COST MONEY. I am asking how the low wage employee is supposed to afford even a bare essentials lifestyle off of a part time minimum wage job while they improve themselves. You all forget bills must still be paid during this "betterment" process.

How are they managing to survive now? How have they managed up to this point? Especially in the height of the recession a few years ago. It sounds like they can actually afford the bare essentials, so let's not over-dramatize this. I'm somewhat sympathetic, so $10 an hr is fine, but $15? No fukkin way. If that still doesn't fly, then tough shyt. Don't be in that fukkin position if you don't want to deal with it.

 

[Ohene]

good luck trying to get a multi billion dollar corporation to give a fukk about someone who they think of as easily replaceable

You know what though?

Guarantee that the daily raise in wages during this time period cost much less than the business being lost in the meantime...and the costs of training new employees.

 

[ugksam]

You know what though?

Guarantee that the daily raise in wages during this time period cost much less than the business being lost in the meantime...and the costs of training new employees.

McDs would never do that cause then anytime the employees wanted a raise they would go on strike