Fast food workers strike, demanding $15 an hour

[AITheAnswerAI]

Those other people are underpaid as well though. Teachers are notoriously underpaid.

So don't you think teachers deserve a higher priority then fast food workers?

 

[Higher Tech]

Right, but thats for more higher end items. I assume the cat talking about 10 dollar mcds burgers, is talking about the lower priced burgers and meals jumping significantly in price. Thats a scare tactic, and it wont happen because the market equilibrium wont allow for it. Customers are used to paying a certain amount for mcdonalds food. A huge jump, and most customers will find other alternatives, and not frequent the restaurant at all. McDonalds whole appeal is cheap food, and customers will feel violated.

I think people are addicted to McD's just like cigarettes. When I was a kid cigs were a dollar a pack. Now they're like 8 bucks. The tax increase was supposed to deter people from smoking.

I dont know what a pack of squares cost, but I know it's like 8 or 9 bucks. Same way people didnt stop buying Nike's when all of their shoes were all of a sudden over 100 bucks. Even if a McD's burger price skyrockets, people will still spend the money to get it.

 

[Gus Money]

Minimum wage should provide for the bare expenses. I thought that was the point.




$12/hr sounds about right.




I already see people in here with their slave mentality acting like its a privilege for everyone in society to earn an honest living. I know you got your IT certs but, everybody should be able to have a bed to sleep in, food in the fridge & the lights on. You can't do that shyt with $8/hr.

It reminds me of that WalMart thread a few months ago in HL. People are so quick to defend these corporations and shyt on "unskilled" workers when they try to make a basic, honest living.

The elitism on here is too much sometimes

The thing is, is that there is some middle ground inbetween fast food workers and the 1% you're refering to. Why should fast food workers have salaries approaching those of school teachers and other skilled/educated positions who put in work to get there? Any highschool drop out who can barely speak english can work fast food, but why should they be paid similar to a school teacher who put in the time and work to get there? Not to mention the position of a teacher or any skilled job of similar pay is a lot more important than working fast food?

You guys keep talking about how they can't live off of what they're being paid now, but how have they managed to survive thus far? I'm not necessarily defending the 1%, but I don't like the idea of over-rewarding the least important/skilled workers in society. If you wanna pay em $10 then that's fine, but $15? Nah that's too much, shoulda worked harder to get into a more respectable field, or taken your ass to school.

Because they are human beings with basic needs, and the corporations employing them bring in billions of dollars in revenue. People don't work fast food out of choice, it's out of necessity. It's impossible for everyone to get a high-earning job. If someone dropped out of school that means they shouldn't be paid a livable wage? 15$ an hour comes out to about 30k a year, they aren't going to be living the high life on that salary in NYC.

People can survive in poverty breh, there is just no reason for it when you work for a corporation pulling in billions of dollars. You think everyone who works hard and/or goes to school is going to get a high-paying job? College grads all over the country are struggling to find even part-time work.

 

[No1]

So don't you think teachers deserve a higher priority then fast food workers?

You came to conclusion reading my post how? It's not an either or thing, one group organizing for higher wages doesn't mean another group cannot do the same simultaneously. The struggles aren't even necessarily related. The point was, you cannot use teachers as a barometer to say these people don't deserve to be paid higher wages when teacher's themselves are underpaid. BTW, I wouldn't go as far as to pay these people $15.00 per hour. But you also ignore the fact that college grads are struggling to find work right now so they are the ones working a lot of these jobs. So it's not as if the labor is unskilled. They were unable to find employment given their skillset and the market and employers prefer to hire them than the average person. Thus, you have college grads working at Starbucks and being waitresses, etc.

 

[Egomaniacal1]

How do people get so blinded as to cape for corporate america?!?! People have been somehow convinced that corporate GREED is a naturally inherent part of capitalism to the point that not only do they suck it up and accept it but that they also go out there and champion the shyt?!?! fukking LUDICROUS!!

No wonder the rich get richer. Yall dumb nikkas disappoint me.

 

[Malik]

I think people are addicted to McD's just like cigarettes. When I was a kid cigs were a dollar a pack. Now they're like 8 bucks. The tax increase was supposed to deter people from smoking.

I dont know what a pack of squares cost, but I know it's like 8 or 9 bucks. Same way people didnt stop buying Nike's when all of their shoes were all of a sudden over 100 bucks. Even if a McD's burger price skyrockets, people will still spend the money to get it.

Off topic but, Cigarettes cost $12 a pack in New York.


My mans was down here last summer. Everytime he comes down to Maryland, he buys up a few cartons to take back. $60 a pop. Told me the same carton is $130 in Manhattan

 

[Higher Tech]

Off topic but, Cigarettes cost $12 a pack in New York.


My mans was down here last summer. Everytime he comes down to Maryland, he buys up a few cartons to take back. $60 a pop. Told me the same carton is $130 in Manhattan

Damn! Glad I dont smoke.

 

[Malik]

It reminds me of that WalMart thread a few months ago in HL. People are so quick to defend these corporations and shyt on "unskilled" workers when they try to make a basic, honest living.

The elitism on here is too much sometimes


Because they are human beings with basic needs, and the corporations employing them bring in billions of dollars in revenue. People don't work fast food out of choice, it's out of necessity. It's impossible for everyone to get a high-earning job. If someone dropped out of school that means they shouldn't be paid a livable wage? 15$ an hour comes out to about 30k a year, they aren't going to be living the high life on that salary in NYC.

People can survive in poverty breh, there is just no reason for it when you work for a corporation pulling in billions of dollars. You think everyone who works hard and/or goes to school is going to get a high-paying job? College grads all over the country are struggling to find even part-time work.

People fight tooth & nail to defend the rich because they think they'll be one of them one day.




I read about a UBS trader committing over $2 billion worth of fraud a while ago. People dont bat an eye to that but, they in here arguing about minimum wage workers getting a few more dollars

 

[606onit]

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[AITheAnswerAI]

You came to conclusion reading my post how? It's not an either or thing, one group organizing for higher wages doesn't mean another group cannot do the same simultaneously. The struggles aren't even necessarily related. The point was, you cannot use teachers as a barometer to say these people don't deserve to be paid higher wages when teacher's themselves are underpaid. BTW, I wouldn't go as far as to pay these people $15.00 per hour. But you also ignore the fact that college grads are struggling to find work right now so they are the ones working a lot of these jobs. So it's not as if the labor is unskilled. They were unable to find employment given their skillset and the market and employers prefer to hire them than the average person. Thus, you have college grads working at Starbucks and being waitresses, etc.

What conclusion? I'm asking you a question.

And college grads are not nearly the majority of fast food workers, you're reaching with that point. And whatever few college grads have to result to that type of work, damn sure won't be there long. So the labor does in fact remain largely unskilled.

I can in fact use teachers as a barometer for the simple reason that if they can't get a sizeable salary increase, What makes you think fast food workers can get $15/hr? I'm not argueing whether they should or should not attempt to get paid more, but how realistic their attempts are and what they can actually gain. The fact is, if they don't want to work, mcdonalds will bring in a bunch of Mexicans that will be glad to have that job.

 

[Rigamortus]

I paid $7 for a value meal at Wendy's just yesterday... imagine them having to pay employees nearly double... that price would go up...

I'm convinced some nikkaz in this thread have never even had a job or never ran a business...

Business isn't my strong suit

 

[Auger]

What conclusion? I'm asking you a question.

And college grads are not nearly the majority of fast food workers, you're reaching with that point. And whatever few college grads have to result to that type of work, damn sure won't be there long. So the labor does in fact remain largely unskilled.

I can in fact use teachers as a barometer for the simple reason that if they can't get a sizeable salary increase, What makes you think fast food workers can get $15/hr? I'm not argueing whether they should or should not attempt to get paid more, but how realistic their attempts are and what they can actually gain. The fact is, if they don't want to work, mcdonalds will bring in a bunch of Mexicans that will be glad to have that job.

Why should employees anywhere try to negotiate wages then? Keep state minimum wages static and ignore the increases in the cost of living. Don't like it? José down the corner will be glad to take your Job for less right? This can apply to any job.

They don't realize that if they slightly increase wages, job creators just might be able to benefit in the end.

Holy Christ, it's not entirely about skills required that should determine wages.
supply and demand also play a part. Fast food workers in Fort McMurray here up in Canada are known to start at $17.00/Hr. Sanitation workers here in Ontario earn more than most people.

 

[No1]

What conclusion? I'm asking you a question.

And college grads are not nearly the majority of fast food workers, you're reaching with that point. And whatever few college grads have to result to that type of work, damn sure won't be there long. So the labor does in fact remain largely unskilled.

I can in fact use teachers as a barometer for the simple reason that if they can't get a sizeable salary increase, What makes you think fast food workers can get $15/hr? I'm not argueing whether they should or should not attempt to get paid more, but how realistic their attempts are and what they can actually gain. The fact is, if they don't want to work, mcdonalds will bring in a bunch of Mexicans that will be glad to have that job.

You really don't know what you're talking about at all. First and foremost, your question, if it was not meant to suggest anything, it is then pointless because it would not relate to or defeat anything I was saying. But it did mean something because here you are harping back to the same point about teachers which shows your ignorance of labor and employment law, collective bargaining unions, and the structure of the American labor force.

Number 1, college grads are increasingly struggling to find work. Your argument flies to the contrary of every statistical barometer of the economy of the past 6 years. Literally every economic indicator points to this fact (like people moving back in with their parents). If you don't know that basic reality then you should be spectating in this conversation.

Young adults with bachelor's degrees are increasingly scraping by in lower-wage jobs – waiter or waitress, bartender, retail clerk or receptionist, for example – and that's confounding their hopes a degree would pay off despite higher tuition and mounting student loans.

About 1.5 million, or 53.6 percent, of bachelor's degree-holders under the age of 25 last year were jobless or underemployed, the highest share in at least 11 years. In 2000, the share was at a low of 41 percent, before the dot-com bust erased job gains for college graduates in the telecommunications and IT fields.

Out of the 1.5 million who languished in the job market, about half were underemployed, an increase from the previous year.

Broken down by occupation, young college graduates were heavily represented in jobs that require a high school diploma or less.

In the last year, they were more likely to be employed as waiters, waitresses, bartenders and food-service helpers...

According to government projections released last month, only three of the 30 occupations with the largest projected number of job openings by 2020 will require a bachelor's degree or higher to fill the position – teachers, college professors and accountants. Most job openings are in professions such as retail sales, fast food and truck driving

Come again . If you're not following that equates to the unemployment rate of recent college graduates being twice the national average. Your point about teachers is still irrelevant because they are paid by tax dollars and a large part of the reason they aren't paid more is because of that fact. McDonalds is not a government entity beholden to those pressures. 15 dollars an hour is unrealistic, they won't get paid that much, and I'm not sure at all if these people are unionized, but if they're not. They've got no chance. They won't be able to effectively bargain and if they were, the employer has much more leverage in the fact these people literally can't afford to go without those wages. They're in a spot where only the government can save them to be realistic.

 

[Schmoove]

I say they lowballin, with the amount of profit these chains make they should demand at least $20 an hour.

The chains would raise prices to compensate the extra wage expenses.

Didn't y'all niggros learn anything in high school economics?

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

People who work in Costco make $15 an hour. Managers there make 60k on average. Same as Starbucks Coffee. Problem is, these fast food chains are the standard job in this new, fukked up economy. This isnt the 70s anymore where you can work a factory and make a damn good living. This is the 2010s where good paying jobs are scarce and fast food/ retail bullshyt it workers for its execs that are making record breaking bonuses.

I don't disagree... but let this $15 an hour strike work... then watch items on the menu go up a dollar or 2 & when business drops watch how they'll start laying people off but won't change prices...