Feminists VS Men's Rights Activists Heated Argument (Video)

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I can't ride with the concept of the wage gap...

I have to ask what positions that statistic (77 cents to a dollar) is taking into account.
In regards to all of the positions that are out there, there are jobs out there that require crazier schedules, hard physical labor, more dangerous work, and a risk of serious injury or death. Most of these positions are taken by men.

Not saying that women CAN'T do them :whoa:

Generally speaking, people working more dangerous jobs like this SHOULD be paid more regardless of gender, in order to compensate for the risk involved. Otherwise, nobody would want to do it.

The second thing I have to ask is that if women are inherently making less (77 cents to a dollar), then why would employers bother to hire men at all when they could save all that money by only hiring women? :ld:

how about th ework women do for the most part arent dangerous


if its a dangerous job you will get paid accordingly. Women get those white collar receptionist, office admin, admin assistant , office managers jobs, of course they will get paid less than a garbage man picking up 15 pounds of garbage, or a miner etc.


when women are in a dangerous occupation say a escort, prostitute, stripper they get paid generously for their work
 

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I will break it down for you: if you work towards making sexual assault harder to prosecute you WILL be making it more difficult for women to report sexual assault and rape when it does happen. If you focus on further cementing male political and economic power, you will be making it more difficult for women (and black women specifically) to advance In these fields. If you loosen paternity laws, it will that much easier for black men to leave their families in effed up situations, even more than do now, if that could even be possible.

sexual assault is a horribel thing and those who commit the crimes should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, however a woman has the power to destroy any man she sleeps with or not sleeps with by throwing out that she was raped.
 

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I think the point is....

Stop helping your enemy finish a marathon just because you wanna finish a lap. :skip: Are you really that desperate? :laff:

This is what you're doing breh:
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that's not what i'm doing at all actually. you see it as cliques and crews. I see it as right and wrong. If Rush Limbaugh or Bill Oreilly say"today is august 5th" am i suppose to go against that statement because i think they are dispicable human beings even though they happen to agree with me on what date it is today? would that mean i'm a racist sympathizer?


how exactly am i helping their racist agenda by recognizing there are issues i agree with as far as those so-called MRA groups are concerned? doesn't mean i'm down with the MRAs (and yes part of what turns me off of those types is the bigot undertones). So again, my question is, If i'm fighting for certain specific male issues without being affiliated with any groups or association, and someone else is fighting for specific female issues, what in that makes it one vs the other?
 
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sexual assault is a horribel thing and those who commit the crimes should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, however a woman has the power to destroy any man she sleeps with or not sleeps with by throwing out that she was raped.
I'm not going to get into it with you because you choose to remain stubbornly ignorant and misinformed. I don't have the time for it today. You're welcome to read my post however.
 

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I will break it down for you: if you work towards making sexual assault harder to prosecute you WILL be making it more difficult for women to report sexual assault and rape when it does happen. If you focus on further cementing male political and economic power, you will be making it more difficult for women (and black women specifically) to advance In these fields. If you loosen paternity laws, it will that much easier for black men to leave their families in effed up situations, even more than do now, if that could even be possible.
it's not about making it harder to prosecute rape/sexual assault, it's about making the process smarter. it's not about loosening or tightening the paternity laws, it's about making them smarter. it's like you see things as either being in favor of men or women. reminds me of the whole gun control debate actually...
 

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you see it as cliques and crews. I see it as right and wrong. ?
Exactly, and you will still end up getting fukked over in the end because people only naturally care about what's right for them. Don't fight to free your oppressor. If you want freedom, do it in YOUR name.

Black women understood that white women didn't have all of their interests at heart and created their own movement. You all are settling, desperate, and looking weak defending the same white male patriarchy that gets black men killed every day like some typical overseer slaves.

White men made ALL of this and now that things aren't working out in their favor, their calling foul and you're right there with them like you're life will be any better in the end. :laff:

You don't even have a girlfriend, but you're acting like your most pressing issue is a baby mama who will take the assets you don't have. Meanwhile then men you stand next to will profile you in a heartbeat. Do you see how loserish this is? :laff:
 
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it's not about making it harder to prosecute rape/sexual assault, it's about making the process smarter. it's not about loosening or tightening the paternity laws, it's about making them smarter. it's like you see things as either being in favor of men or women. reminds me of the whole gun control debate actually...
I'm actually anti guns. It's all about the evidence for me: less guns, less gun related deaths. It's well documented in the literature. I have a degree in public health so I had to read about stuff like gun violence and sexual violence for school.
 

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Exactly, and you will still end up getting fukked over in the end because people only naturally care about what's right for them. Don't fight to free your oppressor. If you want freedom, do it in YOUR name.

Black women understood that white women didn't have all of their interests at heart and created their own movement. You all are settling, desperate, and looking weak defending the same white male patriarchy that gets black men killed every day like some typical overseer slaves.

White men made ALL of this and now that things aren't working out in their favor, their calling foul and you're right there with them like you're life will be any better in the end. :laff:

You don't even have a girlfriend, but you're acting like your most pressing issue is a baby mama who will take the assets you don't have. Meanwhile then men you stand next to will profile you in a heartbeat. Do you see how loserish this is? :laff:
i don't care abou their issues unless they could potentially affect me. You're a fool if you think that it only happens to white males. Yes i've seen dudes get arrested from their own homes after THEY called the police for DV. yes they were black :damn:. Yes i've seen dudes get falsely accused of sexual assault and get in trouble only for the bytch to recant her story after she got caught in lies. Yes the males were black. Yes this has even happened to me. so miss me with that "you're helping massa!" BS. i don't give a fukk about white males. But why are you trying to tell me i shouldn't fight for shyt that could potentially affect me under the pretext that it also happens to help white males (and it doesn't help them because they are white, it helps them because they are males)

EDIT: and I don't stand with anyone. and also where did i talk about a woman taking my assets?
 

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I'm actually anti guns. It's all about the evidence for me: less guns, less gun related deaths. It's well documented in the literature. I have a degree in public health so I had to read about stuff like gun violence and sexual violence for school.
i'm not pro or anti-guns. I'm for smarter gun laws which means in some areas of the law, the rules should be looser, and in some areas it should be stricter.
 
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What the fukk does it matter how many billionaires are woman? Oprah has her own NETWORK, named after HER, how many men have a channel named after them?

If i'm on a forum complaining what the fukk does that make you estrogen filled idiots? arent you on the same damn forum motherfukker?

And as far as the cabinet goes, Hillary Clinton is fukking secretary of state, condeleeza rice might as well have been vp during bushs reign of terror.
You're such an IDIOT if you don't understand that having one female billionaire doesn't mean shyt if the rest of the billionaires are white males. You want to talk about NETWORKS? Rupert Murdoch runs NewsCorp one the largest media conglomerates in the world. CONGLOMERATE meaning MULTIPLE entities. And he didn't put his name on it because he doesn't want you to know that he's controlling the media. Another one: Ted Turner he runs CNN. Seeing a trend here? White men control how Americans receive INFORMATION. Oprah, bless her heart, has a struggling channel that seeks to entertain and it's having a hard time doing that.

BTW Hilary is sec of State anymore, smart guy. It's John Kerry, another white male benificiary of good pedigree and generational wealth since his mom is a member of the Forbes family.

I'm going to stop talking to you b/c we're clearly coming from different knowledge bases.
 

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You're such an IDIOT if you don't understand that having one female billionaire doesn't mean shyt if the rest of the billionaires are white males. You want to talk about NETWORKS? Rupert Murdoch runs NewsCorp one the largest media conglomerates in the world. CONGLOMERATE meaning MULTIPLE entities. And he didn't put his name on it because he doesn't want you to know that he's controlling the media. Another one: Ted Turner he runs CNN. Seeing a trend here? White men control how Americans receive INFORMATION. Oprah, bless her heart, has a struggling channel that seeks to entertain and it's having a hard time doing that.

BTW Hilary is sec of State anymore, smart guy. It's John Kerry, another white male benificiary of good pedigree and generational wealth since his mom is a member of the Forbes family.

I'm going to stop talking to you b/c we're clearly coming from different knowledge bases.

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i don't care abou their issues unless they could potentially affect me. You're a fool if you think that it only happens to white males. Yes i've seen dudes get arrested from their own homes after THEY called the police for DV. yes they were black :damn:. Yes i've seen dudes get falsely accused of sexual assault and get in trouble only for the bytch to recant her story after she got caught in lies. Yes the males were black. Yes this has even happened to me. so miss me with that "you're helping massa!" BS. i don't give a fukk about white males. But why are you trying to tell me i shouldn't fight for shyt that could potentially affect me under the pretext that it also happens to help white males (and it doesn't help them because they are white, it helps them because they are males)

EDIT: and I don't stand with anyone. and also where did i talk about a woman taking my assets?
My nikka are you retarded?

I'm asking why are you sticking up for your oppressor when they give no fukk about you just because of some p*ssy you don't have in the first place?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :damn: :damn:

Fight for it under your own damn banner and stop being such a lazy fukk and hopping on a white man's dikk as if he gives a fukk about you. :dahell: If you're retarded ass could read, you'd see no one is telling you to not fight for whatever problem you have (even though it's a pussified one) just that you're doing it in a fakkit ass way. Do you get that nikka? :damn: :damn: :damn:

And yes you are standing with them. You're defending their views and taking them as your own as well, even explaining to people on here and trying to get them to sympathize with MRA and not think of it as a bad thing (ie. see your first post).

I agree with conservatives on some things but do you think I'mma attach myself to their party and explain their tactics/ideas under their title? fukk no. Same thing for liberals.

I hate seeing black people play themselves, but you seem intent on doing such so do your thing nikka. Just don't feel bad when the white guy who has a problem with alimony also has a problem with you getting mad about him calling you ******.
 
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