Finally, the US admits it: AP classes are way too white

[Blackking]

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not but answer me this truthfully, wouldn't you agree that the root of education and it's standing in our community is not as emphasized as other races? We need to want to learn before we can take on the advanced placement classes. I'm not doubting the ability to be able to do if we put our minds to it, but we can't even do that for regular classes. That's the main issue. I keep my MBA in my mancave at the crib on the wall. I don't want my kids to look at that degree as if it is some far off dream. I want them to look at it as if it their floor, not their ceiling. That's my main argument.

Who doesn't want to learn?

Some situations are conducive to learning at a high level.

The majority of kids regardless of race want to learn and learned based on home life and community environment.

The bullshyt you're speaking about is a myth -- the myth being black people are anti academic.

fukk ur MBA if it's still kept you ignorant.

I took all AP classes and only took 1 class my senior year while i took cc classes. But that's only because i was adopted out of my hood and situation.

There are more historic and economic reasons for the current black situation --- blacks didn't randomly chose one day to filter into the areas with the least amount of resources, to put stigmas on our own backs, and to socially and economically disenfranchise ourselves.

All of that is against the majority of blacks....... We have ignorance holding us back from the hoodrats amongst us . But also from the blacks who don't fully understand the situation.

You are seriously late for your train breh.... you better tap your way to the station.

 

[Blackking]

You have to have an amazing GPA to get into AP classes. I had AP classes in HS and yeah it was mostly white people, but guess what? Those white people were getting straight A's. They weren't focusing on being "real nikkas" like the black kids. shyt, I was actually dissed by black kids for speaking proper English. It's time for black people to own up to their own behaviors and poor values. I didn't grow up affluent, but my parents put into my head that anything less than a B was unacceptable. I don't know what it is with black people and wanting to have it easier in life and get handouts. It's like a backhanded diss. You might as well say "well we's black foke ain't as smarts as yuh white fokes so can you please let us in yo AP classes with a D- ?"

You were probably a fukk boy awkward fakkit. (no offense)


Black people are always proud of people who are successful.

I went to a majority wealthy CAC HS. Those CAC weren't focused on Education AT ALL. They were just like other kids, partying,smoking, fukking and being kids.
However, They were privileged enough to have the State academic standard as a part of their culture (as it was designed For and around them) . But they weren't inherently more motivated than people outside the paradigm created for them. .


me , some other dude , and 1 other black girl were the 3 black kids in all of our classes (my friends were in lower classes) ...... We didn't even fukk with the cacs or that other black guy because he wasn't our style.

It wasn't about being a 'real nikka'.

People who aren't accepted by their community usually generalize and diss the masses of their own community without acknowledging the facts of the situation.

This makes you book smart and weak - but not aware and intelligent. If you were intelligent you'd realize the complete situation and figure out ways that you might be able to help.



you need to sit here and await the next train buddy.

 

[MaseratiDiaz]

You were probably a fukk boy awkward fakkit. (no offense)


Black people are always proud of people who are successful.

I went to a majority wealthy CAC HS. Those CAC weren't focused on Education AT ALL. They were just like other kids, partying,smoking, fukking and being kids.
However, They were privileged enough to have the State academic standard as a part of their culture (as it was designed For and around them) . But they weren't inherently more motivated than people outside the paradigm created for them. .


me , some other dude , and 1 other black girl were the 3 black kids in all of our classes (my friends were in lower classes) ...... We didn't even fukk with the cacs or that other black guy because he wasn't our style.

It wasn't about being a 'real nikka'.

People who aren't accepted by their community usually generalize and diss the masses of their own community without acknowledging the facts of the situation.

This makes you book smart and weak - but not aware and intelligent. If you were intelligent you'd realize the complete situation and figure out ways that you might be able to help.



you need to sit here and await the next train buddy.

Black people are proud of people who are success AFTER THEY GET THERE... but not BEFORE they get there. And yeah you are making it about being a "real nikka". Using personal attacks like "you was a lame" is you saying I'm not "hood" or "black" enough. Don't get mad at me because most black people make poor life decisions. It ain't my fault. You can laugh about the community "not accepting me" yet have an issue with me thinking the community ain't shyt. Why is that?

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Who doesn't want to learn?

Some situations are conducive to learning at a high level.

The majority of kids regardless of race want to learn and learned based on home life and community environment.

The bullshyt you're speaking about is a myth -- the myth being black people are anti academic.

fukk ur MBA if it's still kept you ignorant.

I took all AP classes and only took 1 class my senior year while i took cc classes. But that's only because i was adopted out of my hood and situation.

There are more historic and economic reasons for the current black situation --- blacks didn't randomly chose one day to filter into the areas with the least amount of resources, to put stigmas on our own backs, and to socially and economically disenfranchise ourselves.

All of that is against the majority of blacks....... We have ignorance holding us back from the hoodrats amongst us . But also from the blacks who don't fully understand the situation.

You are seriously late for your train breh.... you better tap your way to the station.

I grew up in inner city detroit, miss me with that bullshyt. So, we are never supposed to take a stand and try to make a way for ourselves. I'm very aware of the situation.

This is local to me.

Corp Name ELA Pass N ELA Percent Pass Math Pass N Math Percent Pass Both Math and ELA Percent Pass
East Porter County School Corp 1055 93.80% 1067 94.80% 91.00%
Crown Point Community Sch Corp 3158 91.00% 3212 92.20% 87.30%
School Town of Munster 1555 88.80% 1593 90.80% 85.30%
Valparaiso Community Schools 2430 88.70% 2500 91.10% 84.80%
M S D Boone Township 446 86.80% 483 93.10% 83.90%
South Central Com School Corp 343 86.20% 365 91.70% 83.30%
Union Township School Corp 610 86.40% 621 87.80% 82.40%
Duneland School Corporation 2290 86.20% 2403 90.00% 82.10%
Tri-Township Cons School Corp 146 88.50% 146 87.40% 81.20%
LaPorte Community School Corp 2319 84.60% 2453 88.90% 80.60%
Portage Township Schools 2926 84.20% 3127 89.90% 80.60%
Lake Central School Corp 3759 86.30% 3742 85.50% 80.00%
New Prairie United School Corp 1098 85.20% 1132 86.90% 79.70%
Porter Township School Corp 565 87.60% 539 82.90% 78.60%
Tri-Creek School Corporation 1326 84.90% 1333 85.00% 78.50%
School Town of Highland 1172 83.30% 1221 86.70% 78.50%
South Newton School Corp 317 82.80% 327 85.20% 77.30%
School City of Hobart 1520 85.70% 1474 82.80% 77.20%
Kankakee Valley School Corp 1277 81.40% 1381 87.10% 76.70%
Hanover Community School Corp 839 84.50% 839 84.60% 76.70%
Griffith Public Schools 786 78.90% 854 85.30% 74.70%
Rensselaer Central School Corp 571 80.40% 597 84.00% 74.50%
North Newton School Corp 528 80.90% 526 80.30% 72.90%
River Forest Community Sch Corp 510 78.50% 514 78.40% 71.10%
Whiting School City 383 80.50% 390 80.90% 70.80%
Lake Station Community Schools 527 75.80% 575 82.90% 70.40%
M S D of New Durham Township 294 75.40% 329 84.10% 70.40%
Merrillville Community School 2239 79.00% 2178 76.60% 68.40%
Lake Ridge Schools 528 72.40% 591 80.50% 65.70%
Michigan City Area Schools 1753 72.30% 1765 72.00% 62.80%
School City of Hammond 3939 67.90% 4027 69.10% 57.90%
School City of East Chicago 1162 62.00% 1195 62.90% 50.30%
Gary Community School Corp 1844 61.40% 1783 59.00% 47.70%

This is for the state testing. In large part, I don't blame the kids, I blame the parents. So, forever and ever, we are supposed to go on and on, rant and rave about injustices and how we've been wronged? We are, have and will continue to be wronged but I'm never the type to go "woe as me" and mosey on with day. I'm going to feel sorry for people that have kids that shouldn't be having them in the first place. Sorry for the kids and their situation but not the parents. After a while, after all the garbage, a person still has to be responsible for themselves and it seems as if you, because of institutionalized situations, want to absolve people of their faults and misdoings. I'm not going to do that.

 

[Blackking]

Black people are proud of people who are success AFTER THEY GET THERE... but not BEFORE they get there. And yeah you are making it about being a "real nikka". Using personal attacks like "you was a lame" is you saying I'm not "hood" or "black" enough. Don't get mad at me because most black people make poor life decisions. It ain't my fault. You can laugh about the community "not accepting me" yet have an issue with me thinking the community ain't shyt. Why is that?

you don't have to be hood to not be a lame..

and i only attacked u because you generalized and in turn attacked black people

 

[MaseratiDiaz]

you don't have to be hood to not be a lame..

and i only attacked u because you generalized and in turn attacked black people

I didn't attack black people. I'm saying it's time for black people to take some accountability for their actions and stop blaming white people for everything. White people aren't making black kids idolize rappers, basketball players and drug dealers. White people aren't why black kids sag their pants. White people aren't causing the crime in the "hood". White people aren't making black people think speaking proper English is "acting white". Take accountability for once.

 

[Blackking]

I grew up in inner city detroit, miss me with that bullshyt. So, we are never supposed to take a stand and try to make a way for ourselves. I'm very aware of the situation.

This is local to me.

Corp Name ELA Pass N ELA Percent Pass Math Pass N Math Percent Pass Both Math and ELA Percent Pass
East Porter County School Corp 1055 93.80% 1067 94.80% 91.00%
Crown Point Community Sch Corp 3158 91.00% 3212 92.20% 87.30%
School Town of Munster 1555 88.80% 1593 90.80% 85.30%
Valparaiso Community Schools 2430 88.70% 2500 91.10% 84.80%
M S D Boone Township 446 86.80% 483 93.10% 83.90%
South Central Com School Corp 343 86.20% 365 91.70% 83.30%
Union Township School Corp 610 86.40% 621 87.80% 82.40%
Duneland School Corporation 2290 86.20% 2403 90.00% 82.10%
Tri-Township Cons School Corp 146 88.50% 146 87.40% 81.20%
LaPorte Community School Corp 2319 84.60% 2453 88.90% 80.60%
Portage Township Schools 2926 84.20% 3127 89.90% 80.60%
Lake Central School Corp 3759 86.30% 3742 85.50% 80.00%
New Prairie United School Corp 1098 85.20% 1132 86.90% 79.70%
Porter Township School Corp 565 87.60% 539 82.90% 78.60%
Tri-Creek School Corporation 1326 84.90% 1333 85.00% 78.50%
School Town of Highland 1172 83.30% 1221 86.70% 78.50%
South Newton School Corp 317 82.80% 327 85.20% 77.30%
School City of Hobart 1520 85.70% 1474 82.80% 77.20%
Kankakee Valley School Corp 1277 81.40% 1381 87.10% 76.70%
Hanover Community School Corp 839 84.50% 839 84.60% 76.70%
Griffith Public Schools 786 78.90% 854 85.30% 74.70%
Rensselaer Central School Corp 571 80.40% 597 84.00% 74.50%
North Newton School Corp 528 80.90% 526 80.30% 72.90%
River Forest Community Sch Corp 510 78.50% 514 78.40% 71.10%
Whiting School City 383 80.50% 390 80.90% 70.80%
Lake Station Community Schools 527 75.80% 575 82.90% 70.40%
M S D of New Durham Township 294 75.40% 329 84.10% 70.40%
Merrillville Community School 2239 79.00% 2178 76.60% 68.40%
Lake Ridge Schools 528 72.40% 591 80.50% 65.70%
Michigan City Area Schools 1753 72.30% 1765 72.00% 62.80%
School City of Hammond 3939 67.90% 4027 69.10% 57.90%
School City of East Chicago 1162 62.00% 1195 62.90% 50.30%
Gary Community School Corp 1844 61.40% 1783 59.00% 47.70%

This is for the state testing. In large part, I don't blame the kids, I blame the parents. So, forever and ever, we are supposed to go on and on, rant and rave about injustices and how we've been wronged? We are, have and will continue to be wronged but I'm never the type to go "woe as me" and mosey on with day. I'm going to feel sorry for people that have kids that shouldn't be having them in the first place. Sorry for the kids and their situation but not the parents. After a while, after all the garbage, a person still has to be responsible for themselves and it seems as if you, because of institutionalized situations, want to absolve people of their faults and misdoings. I'm not going to do that.

regardless of ethnicity race etc -- only a small % of people can make it out of a fukked up situation.

I grew up in east detroit.

We don't have to live in history; but we should be aware of it to form solutions.

The solution isn't to diss and generalize all hood people. ......... that has been tried for 40 years , besides it's ignorant anyway.

We know the details on bad parenting, etc.

Also, we can't make it out of situation and then turn around and look at those that weren't as fortunate like

 

[Maliciouslarynx]

Blaming the parent is not wrong, but discounting the environment (in/outside of school) is wrong.



Typically parents who keeps tabs on their child’s progress, communicate with teachers, and enroll them children in tough classes have high achieving children.

However, parents who live in low-income communities have less energy for school involvement. This fix would need to be made through partnerships (parents-school)

Also, it is easy to put the kids in those large classrooms and say “oh well, your past performance makes this just.” Those low-track classrooms are not favorable(less stimulating). Students say the classrooms lack “supportiveness” and that surely will not help a student become motivated. Just as anyone else, they need environments that satisfy their “emotional and social needs.” Otherwise their potential won’t be understood.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

You have to have an amazing GPA to get into AP classes. I had AP classes in HS and yeah it was mostly white people, but guess what? Those white people were getting straight A's. They weren't focusing on being "real nikkas" like the black kids. shyt, I was actually dissed by black kids for speaking proper English. It's time for black people to own up to their own behaviors and poor values. I didn't grow up affluent, but my parents put into my head that anything less than a B was unacceptable. I don't know what it is with black people and wanting to have it easier in life and get handouts. It's like a backhanded diss. You might as well say "well we's black foke ain't as smarts as yuh white fokes so can you please let us in yo AP classes with a D- ?"

This is the worst post ive ever read.

 

[MaseratiDiaz]

This is the worst post ive ever read.

Yet you can't address the facts I stated.

 

[blackzeus]

No it doesnt

I'm black, grew up poor, took AP classes

 

[blackzeus]

You have to have an amazing GPA to get into AP classes. I had AP classes in HS and yeah it was mostly white people, but guess what? Those white people were getting straight A's. They weren't focusing on being "real nikkas" like the black kids. shyt, I was actually dissed by black kids for speaking proper English. It's time for black people to own up to their own behaviors and poor values. I didn't grow up affluent, but my parents put into my head that anything less than a B was unacceptable. I don't know what it is with black people and wanting to have it easier in life and get handouts. It's like a backhanded diss. You might as well say "well we's black foke ain't as smarts as yuh white fokes so can you please let us in yo AP classes with a D- ?"

/thread

 

[wheywhey]

More schools are holding open lotteries for AP classes. Whoever's name is drawn gets to take the class. This results in prepared students not being picked to take an AP class and unprepared students taking and failing the class/exam.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/09/local/la-me-ap-classes-20131007

I had read another article that said that a particular school couldn't offer more AP sections because they didn't have enough teachers qualified to teach.

I crunched the numbers on my own and the average passage rates on AP exams for blacks is 30%, whites 65%, and Asians 70-75%. I don't really count Hispanics since so many of them are one and done with AP Spanish but their passage rate is about 50%.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

yup. i took all ap classes in high school and was routinely the only black kid in my classes.

 

[Insensitive]

Ok, I hate to be the one to say it but half of us can't even read and we are expecting placement in these AP classes? The fukking parents of these kids need AP classes on how to get your child to give a shyt in school. Don't just look at the problem, look at hte root of the problem and how education is de-emphasized in many arenas of black life. Guy talks proper to girl he likes, *bourgeois chick says that you talking white, hops in Ray-Ray's car. That's how shyt like Plies' career happened. Educated guy talking uneducated. Got me out here sounding like a young Bill Cosby but it is the truth.

You heard it here folks.
Half of all 40 million black people are illiterates who only
want to date "Ray Tay" and "Shaniqua" or some other caricature
of a black person.

You have to have an amazing GPA to get into AP classes. I had AP classes in HS and yeah it was mostly white people, but guess what? Those white people were getting straight A's. They weren't focusing on being "real nikkas" like the black kids. shyt, I was actually dissed by black kids for speaking proper English. It's time for black people to own up to their own behaviors and poor values. I didn't grow up affluent, but my parents put into my head that anything less than a B was unacceptable. I don't know what it is with black people and wanting to have it easier in life and get handouts. It's like a backhanded diss. You might as well say "well we's black foke ain't as smarts as yuh white fokes so can you please let us in yo AP classes with a D- ?"

"Black foke just don't work as hard as good white chillen. Pull dem boomstraps
hardah bruddahs and sissahs" - Maserati Diaz