FiveThirtyEight: Once And For All: Michael Jordan Was WAY Better Than Kobe Bryant

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LMFAO KOBE HAS MADE 12 ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAMS (9 FIRST TEAM) .. MORE THAN MJ.. AND U GOT THE AUDACITY TO CALL HIM
A BELOW AVERAGE DEFENDER?


U DONT DESERVE LIFE HOMIE
He was a good defender for a year or two (the stats back this up), he was average for a while, then transitioned from below average to awful. The stats corroborate all of this.

Ariza and Artest would be slowing down the other teams top player, Fisher would be getting torn the fukk up by his man, and Kobe would be on the weakside doing nothing while the Dahntay Jones, Keith Bogans, and Ronnie Brewers of the league were left open.
 

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compare a role player to Lebron brehs.

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Kobe has a lower TS% percentage while scoring less points and @Sccit is trying to argue he's a better shooter than MJ. Jordan is much better at shooting in the midrange, has better shot selection, ability to create more separation, a better slasher, a better finisher, and an overall better scorer.

Is Jordan a better scorer than Kobe or not?

He's using the same argument that someone would use to say Curry is better than Kobe (Shooting and handles) but at least Curry is actually an efficient shooter.


THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT YOURE USING CAREER TOTALS .. JORDAN GROUPIES TEND TO MAKE THIS MISTAKE WHEN COMPARING BOTH PLAYERS. THIS IS NOT FAIR TO KOBE, AS HE CAME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND PLAYED FOR A STACKED TEAM, WHERE HE HAD TO WORK HIS WAY INTO THE STARTING LINEUP .. AS OPPOSED TO MJ WHO HAD 2 YEARS OF COLLEGE, WAS DRAFTED TO A SHIITY FRANCHISE, AND HANDED THE KEYS RIGHT OFF THE BAT .. SO THESE CAREER TOTALS ARE SKEWED, WHICH IS WHY WE COMPARE PRIME FOR PRIME. SO TAKE KOBES BEST SCORING SEASON AND COMPARE IT TO MJ'S.... IN TERMS OF RATIO, KOBES IS FAR MORE IMPRESSIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING ERAS.
 

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He was a good defender for a year or two (the stats back this up), he was average for a while, then transitioned from below average to awful. The stats corroborate all of this.

Ariza and Artest would be slowing down the other teams top player, Fisher would be getting torn the fukk up by his man, and Kobe would be on the weakside doing nothing while the Dahntay Jones, Keith Bogans, and Ronnie Brewers of the league were left open.


LOL NO .. KOBE LOCKED DOWN RONDO IN THE 2010 FINALS. ARTEST COULD BARELY EVEN MOVE LATERALLY BY THAT POINT ..... KOBE WAS CREDITED FOR TEACHING LEBRON AND WADE HOW TO PLAY D IN THE 08 OLYMPICS...ITS TRUE THAT LATER IN HIS CAREER HE WOULD TAKE POSESSIONS OFF TO CONSERVE ENERGY FOR OFFENSE (HE NEVER HAD A PIPPEN)......BUT WHEN HE WAS LOCKED IN, HE WAS THE BEST PERIMETER DEFENDER OF HIS ERA, HANDS DOWN.
 

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PUSYBOY, U CAN CAST ALL THE STONES U WANT, BUT ITS MEANINGLESS WHEN U SCARY TO POST WHAT U LOOK LIKE CUZ U HAVE NO SELF-CONFIDENCE .. CLEARLY UR EITHER A HUGE NERD OR HAVE A PHYSICAL DEFORMATION. SO THE MORE DISSES U SPEW, THE MORE FRUITY IT MAKES U LOOK .... AND YEA, CALLIN SOME1 BISEXUAL/BICURIOUS IS TEXTBOOK PROJECTION. I MEAN ITS ONE THING TO CALL SOME1 A FAGG, BUT TO SAY SOME SHIIT LIKE THAT IT HAD TO BE ON YOUR MIND .. IM TOO GOOD FOR THIS SHIIT FAM, U SHOULD PAY ME FOR THESE SESSIONS. IT WASNT U WHO SAID KOBE WAS A BELOW AVERAGE DEFENDER, IT WAS YOUR TAGTEAM NUTRIDER....BUT U QUOTED WHAT I REPLIED TO HIM N TRIED TO DEFEND HIS RETARDATION.


NOW POST YOUR PIC OR STFU NERD

You spend your "adult" life worshipping another man, then demand pictures from somebody on an online forum. Yes, you are a homosexual.

Though I realize you and English are not on good terms, you should have specified who said what.

You're begging me for pictures and money... you are a sad little wigger. You can have all the self-confidence in the world, it doesn't mean your mother isn't right when she questions your life choices every day.
 

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You spend your "adult" life worshipping another man, then demand pictures from somebody on an online forum. Yes, you are a homosexual.

Though I realize you and English are not on good terms, you should have specified who said what.

You're begging me for pictures and money... you are a sad little wigger. You can have all the self-confidence in the world, it doesn't mean your mother isn't right when she questions your life choices every day.


DEMANDING .. GOOD COPOUT NERD. ALL IM SAYIN IS IF U TALKIN SHIIT N TOO SCARY TO SHOW UR OWN FACE, THAT MAKES YOU THE EPITOME OF A COWARD.....BUT I SEE U TRYNA DANCE AROUND THAT, SO KEEP DEFLECTING AND COMIN UP WIT LAME EXCUSES.

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Bu...bu...but at least he had the heart to take the shot and didn't defer
Bu...bu...but they were exciting jumpers
Bu...bu....but only white nerds care about efficiency
Bu...bu...but legends are made in the playoffs. How's he looking there? :sas2:

Ooops. The last one was a mistake. Wouldn't want to bring sense to the discussion.
 

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DEMANDING .. GOOD COPOUT NERD. ALL IM SAYIN IS IF U TALKIN SHIIT N TOO SCARY TO SHOW UR OWN FACE, THAT MAKES YOU THE EPITOME OF A COWARD.....BUT I SEE U TRYNA DANCE AROUND THAT, SO KEEP DEFLECTING AND COMIN UP WIT LAME EXCUSES.

:feedme:

What does my picture have to do with the fact you are a stupid goofy looking autistic wigger? I'm not insecure so I don't need to throw that type of shyt out there. You, on the other hand, are a completely confused mess. I don't care if you want to theorize as to what I look like. If you knew the truth, then you'd STFU rather quickly. You may think you want to compare looks and money but.. you don't. :jjjjj:

This is an online forum. You put yourself out there with your shytty music and stuck your ugly face all over the net. Don't cry about it now you camel faced idiot.
 

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SO WHY DID MJ NEVER SHOOT 50%+ AFTER 1992? .. THE ZONE RULES ADVANCED DEFENSES TENFOLD...DO U UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE 2000, U COULDNT PLAY D OFF YOUR MAN? HELP D WAS MINIMAL.. YOU COULDNT GUARD AREAS OR PACK THE PAINT LIKE U CAN TODAY. DO U KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL? IT WAS WAYYYYY EASIER TO SCORE IN THE 80S, HENCE THE INFLATED SCORING TOTALS .. THIS IS COMMON SENSE HOMIE, STEP IT UP ..... NOT TO MENTION, THE EVOLUTION OF OUR MODERN DAY ATHLETE.. PLAYERS WERE SMALLER AND MUCH LESS PHYSICALLY AND ATHLETICALLY GIFTED THAN THEY ARE TODAY. THE AVERAGE HEIGHT/SIZE OF A SHOOTING GUARD FROM THE 80S HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY, AND THIS IS NOT EVEN DEBATABLE.
Zone defenses = ILLEGAL DEFENSIVE and Jordan faced them all the time from the KNICKS and PISTONS. They also played what was called a FLOATING ZONE back in the 80s and 90s. You niccas need to stay of NBA.COM copying and googling stats n shyt. Mike FLOURISHED against teams throwing 3-2, 2-3 and other forms of zones/illegal defensives.

 

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THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT YOURE USING CAREER TOTALS .. JORDAN GROUPIES TEND TO MAKE THIS MISTAKE WHEN COMPARING BOTH PLAYERS. THIS IS NOT FAIR TO KOBE, AS HE CAME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND PLAYED FOR A STACKED TEAM, WHERE HE HAD TO WORK HIS WAY INTO THE STARTING LINEUP .. AS OPPOSED TO MJ WHO HAD 2 YEARS OF COLLEGE, WAS DRAFTED TO A SHIITY FRANCHISE, AND HANDED THE KEYS RIGHT OFF THE BAT .. SO THESE CAREER TOTALS ARE SKEWED, WHICH IS WHY WE COMPARE PRIME FOR PRIME. SO TAKE KOBES BEST SCORING SEASON AND COMPARE IT TO MJ'S.... IN TERMS OF RATIO, KOBES IS FAR MORE IMPRESSIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING ERAS.
wtf are u talking about man every single one of the stats compared in my post are comparing Kobe and MJ at ages 21-34 it says so right in the beginning

"This is true even if we restrict both players to the same block of seasons by age so we’re comparing apples to apples. Kobe entered the NBA at age 18, and he’s 36 now; Jordan played from age 21 to 34, retired and played again from age 38 to 39. So their overlapping years are 21 to 34"
 

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wtf are u talking about man every single one of the stats compared in my post are comparing Kobe and MJ at ages 21-34 it says so right in the beginning

"This is true even if we restrict both players to the same block of seasons by age so we’re comparing apples to apples. Kobe entered the NBA at age 18, and he’s 36 now; Jordan played from age 21 to 34, retired and played again from age 38 to 39. So their overlapping years are 21 to 34"


Autistic angry wigger can't read. Just listen to his nursery rhymes and you'll understand how stupid he is.
 
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