FiveThirtyEight: Once And For All: Michael Jordan Was WAY Better Than Kobe Bryant

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Damn, this shyt isn't even close. :wow:

I know brehs on here hate analytics but damn near every metric has Jordan as the GOAT.

While I agree that mj is GOAT, PER was actually created under the assumption that Jordan is GOAT. If you read Hollingers book he describes adjusting the formula to make sure MJ came out on top, since he felt that MJ was GOAT.

The other popular/commonly used all encompassing metric to compare players historically is BPM/VORP and LeBron actually comes out number 1 in that one
 

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ADVANCED METRICS DECREASE DRASTICALLY WHEN U CARRYIN PLAYERS LIKE SMUSH PARKER, KWAME BROWN, AND LUKE WALTON ON YOUR BACK DURING THE MIDST OF YOUR PRIME


THEY INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN YOUR SECOND OPTION IS THE BEST 2WAY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE TOR THE DURATION OF YOUR PRIME

ADVANCED METRICS ARE CIRCUMSTANCIAL. STEPHS ADVANCE METRICS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HALF AS GOOD THIS YEAR IF HE PLAYED FOR THE SIXERS

ADVANCED METRICS SAY IVERSON IS NOT A TOP 200 PLAYER

ADVANCED METRICS IS FOR NERDS WHO NEVER PLAYED.


QUANTIFY A SPORT BASED ON HEART AND SOUL BRODIES.

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This makes no sense because you say Shaq held Kobe back but you also say the lack of Shaq held him back. Kobe put up his best advanced stats with the trashy Smush Parker teams. LeBron put up his best advanced stats with the Cavs. The reason you have to keep making up fake arguments to justify Kobes ranking at the top is because he doesn't belong there.

LeBron wins in every statistical argument because he's simply better than Kobe.
 

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So Jordan and LeBron had more opportunity by being drafted to lottery teams as opposed to joining a 53 win team is what you're saying?

Yea....they did.

For the same reason people say winning "1" in Cleveland is worth winning multiple rings somewhere else.

Kobe would've been better off playing somewhere else, being the lead guy his whole career and getting 2-3 rings (which he would've got). That way cornballs could never throw the Shaq shyt in his face as if he didn't prove he could do it without him later.
 

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The disrespect of Kobe is getting annoying.

And I'm not talking about the Jordan comparisons.

You don't see half of the scorn that's thrown Kobe's way, being thrown at Bird or Isiah or Magic or Hakeem. Nikkas is clowns.
Because you don't see delusional Stans making awful arguments that Bird, Isiah, Magic, or Hakeem were the best of all time. If stans would just accept where Kobe actually falls among the all time greats, there wouldn't really be an issue.
 

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Jordan is a meme to me now and that's all he'll ever be known for. One of the old heads tried to show me some highlights. Sat there like, that's it :russ::russell:

Bean>>>>
:mjlol: you are deluding yourself.
 

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Because you don't see delusional Stans making awful arguments that Bird, Isiah, Magic, or Hakeem were the best of all time. If stans would just accept where Kobe actually falls among the all time greats, there wouldn't really be an issue.

Nikka stop it. you was hating Kobe since 2003.

You a hater point blank.

Your reppin' is "fukk the Lakers" :mjlol:

Kobe's a top ten player, 2nd best SG to ever play, what exactly are Kobe stans wrong about?
 
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