Former Obama and Clinton Economic Advisers Tell Bernie To Cut The Bullshyt

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I don't give a fukk if you support it or not, you've spent this thread saying these programs can't work in America, not that you don't like them. So can they be scaled or not?
Some can.

Some can't.

You want it to be one way, not another way.

I've asked you to list the programs, and you find the energy to NOT do that somehow, but yet you can keep replying :francis:
 

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My old Professor one of the Advisers on this letter :francis:

To be fair; alot of these college economists are truly about the data and the numbers and not necessarily the human/parity/fair side of things which Government/Politics caters to.

Need a fair mix and balance of both to resolve a lot of these economic issues.

But that Military Spending and Loopholes for the rich need to go; :ufdup:
 

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My old Professor one of the Advisers on this letter :francis:

To be fair; alot of these college economists are truly about the data and the numbers and not necessarily the human/parity/fair side of things which Government/Politics caters to.

Need a fair mix and balance of both to resolve a lot of these economic issues.

But that Military Spending and Loopholes for the rich need to go; :ufdup:
I'm cool on military spending

loopholes though...that shyt is tragic
 

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So where was the number crunching and figures in this article?

I'm a Bernie supporter but I'm open to a sober critique of his economic plan with math. This "open letter" from a bunch of Clintonites is nothing though.
What argument against Sanders are clinton supporters using that can't conversely be used by any Republican? I dont see what is specific about Clintons policy alternatives that are superior to Bernie. I dont get it... Does she have an alternative or is she just gonna use Republican talkingpoints?
 

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An Open Letter from Past CEA Chairs to Senator Sanders and Professor Gerald Friedman

Yeah pretty much none of this guys economic claims or payment plans for his agenda actually add up and finally some respected economists have had enough.
STOP IT.

PEOPLE keep saying They dont add up.

I'll ask this question again. he is telling you 3 places where he's going to get most of his money

#1. From Wall Street
#2. Corporate and Rich folks taxes
#3. Everyone's taxes.

IN that order.

if he can pull off #1, college can easily be paid for. thats a fact.

if he could pull off #2. the other stuff can be paid for(minus healthcare)
we know he can pull off #3. and this is where medicare for all kicks in.

if he pulls off his massive infrastructure move... more people will have more money to pay more taxes. that is a fact of life. more companies will have more money to pay even more taxes. thats also a fact since more people will spend more money since more people have more money to spend. gotta spend the cheese somewhere.

If i no longer have to pay for healthcare out of my pocket in my check and i save in the end(which i would). then i have even more money to save(banks) or spend or get loans/credit against(banks)

the more loose change i have in my pocket. the more i can play the stock market if thats what i choose to do. in addition the more people at work and the more people making money. the more spending we do and the more money corporations make. which means they have to hire more. hiring more people = more 401k's (more money for wall street to play with, to pay their bernie bills).

So never say it doesnt add up. it adds up if he can accomplish those things. if not. not it wont work. its that simple. but whats the alternative? hillary? ok...and....same healthcare as today. thats cool. baby tweeks. still down with trade agreements galore. so mo jobs lossed in the global economy. still down with wall street(you dont get paid that kind of cheddar for nothing from these guys).

so more of what we currently have. i guess thats a better option than trump or some other repub. but lets be real about it.
 

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You mean the thread where that article was posted and everyone, including Sanders supporters said bullshyt? You guys need to stop being so damn bitter that people don't agree with you and try to win them over with ideas instead of whining about their supposed "irrationality." "None of this guy's economic claims." That would be great if Sanders originated that article, but he did not. Do you want me to attribute every stupid Clinton surrogate to Hillary? Second, there is ample evidence to support his healthcare plan and even Bill Clinton supported it a couple of years ago.

But go ahead, list the Sanders economic policies that are not feasible that he specifically laid out. What? Oh that's right, you got nothing.
I haven't been in HL much lately, but when I do browse I have been surprised at what I've read from some of the left-leaning long-time posters dismissing Sanders and sounding like Clinton beltway buddies.

Like did you ever really have a thorough progressive ideology, or was it all about just hating Republicans and stanning Obama all these years?
 
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