Four songs produced by Swizz Beats. Which one is the best?

[Awesome Wells]

you cant be sued for using a preset

He definitely was though, lol.

Roland came after him for a few joints. I used to have a few of the racks from back then. I'm pretty sure there were restrictions on using the sounds for commercial use without proper clearance or licensing. Those racks came with mad licensing terms.

 

[CHICAGO]

DOWN BOTTOM >>>
HAD THE HOOD GOING CRAZY






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[Ziggiy]

Say what you will about Swizz but NONE of these songs are wack or garbage their all bangers and there’s a reason why Swizz has a 20+ year career and still relevant and getting placements from top artists. You can’t be a wack producer and be working alongside the Kanye Wests, Dr Dre’s, and Pharrell’s of the world in the 2020’s

 

[CHICAGO]

I'm not talking about artists who were sold Swizz tracks. I'm talking about fans. Fans who don't even know who Dee and Wah are.

Swizz is hardly the reason X never made an album as good as his first one. His other albums don't have that many Swizz productions and they aren't as good as his first one either.

X FIRST ALBUM WAS HIS BEST
BECAUSE HE HAD ALL HIS LIFE
TO WRITE THOSE SONGS...
WE JUST FINALLY HEARD THEM IN 98.

AFTER THAT FIRST ALBUM DROPS
AN ARTIST GOTTA START COMING
UP WITH NEW MATERIAL IN
A SHORTER TIME PERIOD
AND YOU SEE THE DECLINE HAPPEN
WITH MOST.





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[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

The WW3 beat was one I liked back then. That was a dope one.

But he didn't bring in any college marching bands for "Down Bottom". He jacked that from the Roland pre-set sounds that came with the JV-1010 rack back then, lol. It came with preloaded loops and sounds on it. Swizz just took one of the patches and threw some drums on it. This was why Roland came after him back then and sued him. People said it was Casio, but it was actually Roland. He had to pay them mad bread for using that off the unit. He was using mad sh*t off of the rack. Copyright infringement.



Listen at the 13:18 mark.

... man didn't even mask it one bit besides looping the last horn 3 times.....

 

[Renegade47]

He definitely was though, lol.

Roland came after him for a few joints. I used to have a few of the racks from back then. I'm pretty sure there were restrictions on using the sounds for commercial use without proper clearance or licensing. Those racks came with mad licensing terms.

you cant get sued for using a sound module bro. if swizz was taking the sound and putting it into another sound module to sell then yes that would be copyright infringement. using it for a song wouldnt be infringement.

 

[KathleenJohnson]

He definitely was though, lol.

Roland came after him for a few joints. I used to have a few of the racks from back then. I'm pretty sure there were restrictions on using the sounds for commercial use without proper clearance or licensing. Those racks came with mad licensing terms.

That's one of them urban legends that got repeated so many times people believed it was true. Hypothetically if anyone got sued it would've been Interscope.

If you go on BMI & ASCAP the only listed writers for "Down Bottom" are

T Gray (Juvenile)
M Smalls (Drag On)
K Dean (Swizz)

In real infringement cases that go to trial, additional writers get added, like with TLC and Ed Sheeran or Uptown Funk and Gap Band

 

[Awesome Wells]

you cant get sued for using a sound module bro. if swizz was taking the sound and putting it into another sound module to sell then yes that would be copyright infringement. using it for a song wouldnt be infringement.

If you read the terms of these modules back then, which we all did, and which is why no one was crazy enough to jack whole compositions from them, lol. You see them saying that "any works used for commercial use, require licensing". So you couldn't take the whole composition and reproduce as your own. You had to get a license for whichever commercial use was intended. This is why they need to get paid for actual commercials on TV. It's not one-shot sounds like in a DAW. Those are entire compositions.

And Swizz said they came after him for "Down Bottom", and a few other tracks. He had to pay them for using the complete works without being licensed to do so. People were getting sued for using the pre-loaded compositions off the Korg M1 and the Karma. Swizz was the first, but he wasn't the last. More people should know this, so that they don’t get hit for trying to do the same.

 

[JustCKing]

Swizz was not sued. He looped a brass section from a module and added drums. That's not a whole composition:

https://www.whosampled.com/Ruff-Ryders/Down-Bottom/

 

[Renegade47]

If you read the terms of these modules back then, which we all did, and which is why no one was crazy enough to jack whole compositions from them, lol. You see them saying that "any works used for commercial use, require licensing". So you couldn't take the whole composition and reproduce as your own. You had to get a license for whichever commercial use was intended. This is why they need to get paid for actual commercials on TV. It's not one-shot sounds like in a DAW. Those are entire compositions.

And Swizz said they came after him for "Down Bottom", and a few other tracks. He had to pay them for using the complete works without being licensed to do so. People were getting sued for using the pre-loaded compositions off the Korg M1 and the Karma. Swizz was the first, but he wasn't the last. More people should know this, so that they don’t get hit for trying to do the same.

where did swizz say they came after him?

 

[Danie84]

While, I love Flesh OF My Flesh Blood of My Blood album, all that mechanical Swizz production sounds dated

 

[Iceson Beckford]

If you read the terms of these modules back then, which we all did, and which is why no one was crazy enough to jack whole compositions from them, lol. You see them saying that "any works used for commercial use, require licensing". So you couldn't take the whole composition and reproduce as your own. You had to get a license for whichever commercial use was intended. This is why they need to get paid for actual commercials on TV. It's not one-shot sounds like in a DAW. Those are entire compositions.

And Swizz said they came after him for "Down Bottom", and a few other tracks. He had to pay them for using the complete works without being licensed to do so. People were getting sued for using the pre-loaded compositions off the Korg M1 and the Karma. Swizz was the first, but he wasn't the last. More people should know this, so that they don’t get hit for trying to do the same.

Breh is deffo in the industry

 

[CrimsonTider]

Revisionist history in this thread. Nobody looked at these beats as garbage. These are all classics. Site is garbage.

LOL @ Swizz robbing artists. Dee and Wah couldn't make people like these songs.

It’s because what an artist does on beat will always take priority over how the beat actually sounds

Did you miss last year when everyone was talking about how bad the singles ladies instrumental was

 

[maxamusa]

is this a serious thread? the one that on its dark n hell iz hot

 

[maxamusa]

Every time I hear these beats now, I think about how crazily Swizz was able to get over and basically rob artists in '98-'99, with these bullsh*t *ss beats.

Dude really sold a lot of trash and was charging dudes mad paper for these trash tracks. I see why Pete Rock went crazy over this, lol. Nepotism is a MF.

Pete rock is the worst example ever.

Swizz beats made anthems that had parties rocking; stop it.