Free Michael Porter Jr. Thead Edit: MPJ gets his first minutes FUTURE MVP!

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Jokic is 7 feet tall with a lot of touch and plays smart. Why should he decline any faster than Duncan did?
Because the new bigs coming will have him farther out and he'll need agility to stop from foul trouble.Plus he not getting down the court any quicker the older he gets.Duncan never had a weight problem.
 

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Because the new bigs coming will have him farther out and he'll need agility to stop from foul trouble.Plus he not getting down the court any quicker the older he gets.Duncan never had a weight problem.


That sounds more like a typical, gradual decline. And the problems you speak of with centers pulling him out to the 3pt line aren't really any different than those many other top centers like KAT, Gobert, Sabonis, Vucevic, Valanciunas, etc. will face as they age. Even Embiid is just another leg injury away from being unable to defend effectively on the perimeter.
 

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That sounds more like a typical, gradual decline. And the problems you speak of with centers pulling him out to the 3pt line aren't really any different than those many other top centers like KAT, Gobert, Sabonis, Vucevic, Valanciunas, etc. will face as they age. Even Embiid is just another leg injury away from being unable to defend effectively on the perimeter.
Facts I just feel like its going to be ghastly when he does fall off ,but you right all big man face this.
 
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What makes Jokic so unique? If Sabonis was in the league during his prime, he would’ve been Jokic. Jokic cannot be your best player if you’re competing for a championship.

Only someone who views the game through statistics (like you :mjlol:) would think otherwise. As proven last playoffs, he CANNOT produce a basket when you most need one, whether passing or going to get one for himself.

MPJ would be the most talented player on the floor, with the skill set and athleticism to take over games when necessary.
MPJ in his last two games without Jokic:

1-8 for 5 points
4-15 for 10 points.



You need to find a new hobby @Squirrel from Meteor Man. Hoops ain't for you.

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MPJ in his last two games without Jokic:

1-8 for 5 points
4-15 for 10 points.



You need to find a new hobby @Squirrel from Meteor Man. Hoops ain't for you.

:picard:

You’re quoting one of the worst coaches in the league, a coach who has no idea how to manage talent. See: Bol Bol. In fact, the coach is such an idiot he doesn’t realize that quote applies to himself.

I see you’re keeping up with your favorite pastime of box score watching.

Keep entertaining yourself in the circus, you’ll have plenty of time when the Warriors miss the playoffs :mjlol:
 
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You’re quoting one of the worst coaches in the league, a coach who has no idea how to manage talent. See: Bol Bol. In fact, the coach is such an idiot he doesn’t realize that quote applies to himself.

I see you’re keeping up with your favorite pastime of box score watching.

Keep entertaining yourself in the circus, you’ll have plenty of time when the Warriors miss the playoffs :mjlol:
Deflecting so much you're not even defending MPJ anymore.

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You say this:
I see you’re keeping up with your favorite pastime of box score watching.



Then immediately post this:

Another ho-hum 30 point performance



Funny you didn't post his 7-point performance the game before that, eh?


MPJ is a talented scorer when he's on, but he remains one of the worst ball-stoppers in the NBA and a horrible defender. That's why 4 years in he still has star-level talent and replacement player-level impact.

On a team where Jokic is scoring like one of the most efficient superstars ever, Gordon is scoring efficiently as well, Murray can create his own shot, and KCP/Brown/Hyland/Cancar are hitting threes like crazy, the Nuggets don't need yet another scorer. They need DEFENSE and BALL MOVEMENT. Unfortunately, MPJ is a huge negative where both of those are concerned.
 

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You say this:




Then immediately post this:





Funny you didn't post his 7-point performance the game before that, eh?


MPJ is a talented scorer when he's on, but he remains one of the worst ball-stoppers in the NBA and a horrible defender. That's why 4 years in he still has star-level talent and replacement player-level impact.

On a team where Jokic is scoring like one of the most efficient superstars ever, Gordon is scoring efficiently as well, Murray can create his own shot, and KCP/Brown/Hyland/Cancar are hitting threes like crazy, the Nuggets don't need yet another scorer. They need DEFENSE and BALL MOVEMENT. Unfortunately, MPJ is a huge negative where both of those are concerned.
They told me Jokic is the best player in the NBA and on par with Hakeem and Kareem, so anything MPJ does is just extra icing on the cake.

Jokic is enough to win a title with this roster, MPJ’s supposed lack of defense be damned.
 

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They told me Jokic is the best player in the NBA and on par with Hakeem and Kareem, so anything MPJ does is just extra icing on the cake.

Jokic is enough to win a title with this roster, MPJ’s supposed lack of defense be damned.


You sound like you are clueless when it come to basketball. Hakeem and Kareem both missed the playoffs in their prime when they didn't have the right teammates around them.


From 1988 (age 25) to 1992 (age 29), Hakeem went 3-12 in the playoffs over five seasons, never winning more than 1 game in a postseason and missing the playoffs completely in '92.

From 1975 (age 27) to 1979 (age 31), Kareem only won 2 playoff rounds in 5 years and missed the playoffs entirely in '75 and '76.


EVERYONE needs the right team to succeed. Right now MPJ isn't helping the Nuggets' title chances.
 
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