French Montana flopped so let's celebrate

[HarlemsOwn]

future also made a single by himself called turn off the lights while French is riding every coattail in the game . These people don't get it , will French be able to tour in little spots and get Money sure but the LABEL isn't happy with these sales. How does French touring restaurant/lounges and having Rick Ross cellphone number help Interscope , bad boy , Mmg make their money back ??

only people who dont listen to french think that he "rides every coattail in the game"

 

[23Barrettcity]

nikkas dont buy albums period

but peep game....

french drops a single with...lets say eminem.....

he gonna get mad buzz. name gonna be on fire

the single gonna sell like crazy

he gonna continue his tour and shows

drop a tape....the process continues

who the fukk cares about record sales /

like i said

future is the hottest in the game and only sold 40k lol

you dont got ya ears to the streets

if you did you would understand that french is that nikka out here

ill stop arguing with you since you clearly know nothing about the musc industry. We need @megatonbomb in here

Kendrick is one of those greats that come every five years (ie. Kanye)

Nikki is one of those greats who capitvate they fan base

Drake is one of those greats that come every five years

2 chainz sold what 130.... who was his singles featured with? 1st single "No Lie" featuring Drake.....2nd single "Birthday song" Ft kanye....he was featured on Mercy. this nikka dope dont get me wrong. but he was gifted with these singles. he already had a previous fanbase from the playaz circle

every artist isnt the same man. im not gonna run thru this shyt

ti is a vet
jeezy is a vet

you get where im going

look at future.....thats where you need to focus

he sold like 40 thous

and he still geettin 15-25 a fukkin show

record sales dont determine shyt

nikkas dont eat off that shyt

they eat off tours and shows

you nikkas could sit there and clown french but guess what

this nikka still cool with the best artist in the game. could get a verse from ya favoirte rapper if he want and he still makes dope music

i been fukkin with him from the day he came out with max

so if yall dont fukk with him it is what it is

yeah I se where your going , your just going to make a bunch of excuses . 2chainz, meek, wale, ASAP rocky (also from NYC)big Sean sold more than him too. Yur quoting 2chains first week sales as if he didn't go gold and doubled Frenchs sales. ASAP album was leaked long before it dropped yet they crushed French . Even kid cudii no promoted last album managed a 100,000 first week . People sell just not like before , but French can't even sell with the new lower standards and he received a super push.
Are you chinx drugs ? you realize he was around before he jumped on maxs wave ? He switched up after they shot him

 

[HarlemsOwn]

Sales match up with the talent.....

But damn, he might not ever re-coup with all that money I'm sure he spent on features.

I could care less about dudes career and I'm not praying for his downfall, I'm just glad cats like him and Chief Keef aren't racking up the sales cause that would mean we would have a gang of French and Keef clones and thats the last thing hip hop needs....

Like someone said, he'll get cake from touring so I'm not really feeling that bad for him moneywise...

Why do you nikkas think that sales = success

and french could get his verses for free

off the love

shyt he even said the only verse he paid for was for that max verse

 

[Funcrusher]

French is eating though

But still...

 

[HarlemsOwn]

ill stop arguing with you since you clearly know nothing about the musc industry. We need @megatonbomb in here
yeah I se where your going , your just going to make a bunch of excuses . 2chainz, meek, wale, ASAP rocky (also from NYC)big Sean sold more than him too. Yur quoting 2chains first week sales as if he didn't go gold and doubled Frenchs sales. ASAP album was leaked long before it dropped yet they crushed French . Even kid cudii no promoted last album managed a 100,000 first week . People sell just not like before , but French can't even sell with the new lower standards and he received a super push.
Are you chinx drugs ? you realize he was around before he jumped on maxs wave ? He switched up after they shot him

i dont care about album sales

how much did ya mans killer mike sell?

i dont listen to him

but i heard ppl saying his album was one of the best in the last couple years

didnt his project sell like 5 racks the first week

like i said album sales dont dictate the music

you slow ass nikkas

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

E-40 disses French Montana

 

[tremonthustler1]

Typical corn nikka response. This bullshyt album flopping is the best thing for hip hop because it serves as a wake up call.. That wack ass nikka offered nothing special lyrically, Had all of that undeserving hype, Had the same tired formula of featuring the same suspects thinking it was gonna sell the album quick and thought he can be like many of those wack rappers that was gonna get a pass because he had a good hustle or all of the flavor of the month rappers on his shyt. fukk him

Man and y'all wonder why y'all get so butthurt when y'all realize that this doesn't mean anything. fukk outta here with this "wake-up call" shyt. Nobody will know or care what hip-hop fans want until y'all... GO OUT AND BUY IT! Music is a business, not a public service. The fact that anyone put French Montana on that kind of pedestal to where what he did could or could not affect the future of rap music is ridiculous. If French did 2 Chainz numbers nothing would really change. French did 50K and other than the fact that he may not get a green light to drop another retail album, that doesn't mean you won't hear another Mac & Cheese or another Coke Boys tape, or another string of collabos.

At the end of the day, there isn't a new rapper out nowadays that will carry the type of influence you crave. Not even Kendrick alone will force a change in how hip-hop music gets made. It's gonna take major shift in how fans and artists think. Believing 1 French Montana flop was gonna get you closer to what you want is foolhardy.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Man and y'all wonder why y'all get so butthurt when y'all realize that this doesn't mean anything. fukk outta here with this "wake-up call" shyt. Nobody will know or care what hip-hop fans want until y'all... GO OUT AND BUY IT! Music is a business, not a public service. The fact that anyone put French Montana on that kind of pedestal to where what he did could or could not affect the future of rap music is ridiculous. If French did 2 Chainz numbers nothing would really change. French did 50K and other than the fact that he may not get a green light to drop another retail album, that doesn't mean you won't hear another Mac & Cheese or another Coke Boys tape, or another string of collabos.

At the end of the day, there isn't a new rapper out nowadays that will carry the type of influence you crave. Not even Kendrick alone will force a change in how hip-hop music gets made. It's gonna take major shift in how fans and artists think. Believing 1 French Montana flop was gonna get you closer to what you want is foolhardy.

The rappers that sell the most are Kanye, Wayne, Drake, Nicki, Em. All are lyrical yet you never see the labels flood the market with lyricists.

 

[tremonthustler1]

The rappers that sell the most are Kanye, Wayne, Drake, Nicki, Em. All are lyrical yet you never see the labels flood the market with lyricists.

which to a degree proves my point.

and Future flopped his first week. Still found time to wind up on every collabo afterward and drop a FreeBang Gang mixtape. Gucci Mane flops every time. Curren$y (let's be real here) flops every time, yet whenever a mixtape or EP drops that they do everyone's ready to eat. The landscape of rap simply won't change much because what gets made and what is popular around the way is so disconnected from what's actually selling minus a select few.

It takes more than just what you present on the mic. It sucks, but that's what hip-hop fans do. We want more than just what the music gives. A guy like French, when you strip away the features and the Harry Fraud beats, he's someone you don't care to wanna know more about. The music French makes still gets love, just doesn't get support in sales. Ex. this summer I'll be hearing "Ain't Worried About Nothin" and "Karate Chop" all summer, yet those 2 artists didn't sell like that. It's quite peculiar.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

they really promoted frenchie album.

 

[RenAi!]

I don't like French Montana either, but damn y'all nikkas are haters. What kind of man sits around celebrating another mans failure, especially when they're not even in the same competition. Yaw some lames.

I agree with this, but 'ed at this:

 

[CrimsonTider]

French Montana is richer than all of us. Its not about being a hater its about supporting real talent. These rappers know they can put out shytty gimmick raps and people will buy their music regardless. If the consumer starts boycotting with their money these artists will have to use talent to rise to the top rather than relying on a feature and a catchy beat.

When Has real talent ever been something that was marketed and sold in hiphop?

The kind of man that wants hip hop restored to where talent matters more than connections and image. I'll never when a talented artist that dropped good material flop. But when trash flops I because I probably won't have to hear that shytty artist nor any copycat trying to pivot off his sound and success. Does that answer your question?

If you want talented artist back at the fore front then why don't you support them.

Record labels are only meeting a demand.

How so? He makes trash music and he got a fitting result for his product. Like OP said it helps clean the game up when wack shyt is not rewarded with success. Nikkaz used to get run out of rap for being wack, its because fans continue to excuse trash that it exists hate and criticism are not the same. Calling out a non rapping ass non talented coat tail riding nikka for being bad at his "job" is not hate.

who has ever been run out of rap for being wack?

Typical corn nikka response. This bullshyt album flopping is the best thing for hip hop because it serves as a wake up call.. That wack ass nikka offered nothing special lyrically, Had all of that undeserving hype, Had the same tired formula of featuring the same suspects thinking it was gonna sell the album quick and thought he can be like many of those wack rappers that was gonna get a pass because he had a good hustle or all of the flavor of the month rappers on his shyt. fukk him

wake up call to who what?

When has lyricism ever actually determined success in hiphop.

 

[Jaewon]

I love French on Harry Fraud beats but this album is garbage. The best song is that joint with Weeknd and it's solely based off the fact that Weeknd blacked out
I could care less for French's struggle bars on this.

With that being said, I'm waiting for more Montana & Fraud material in the future.

 

[Birnin Zana]

French (or Puff) waited waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too long to release the album. Pop that was poppin a year ago. The buzz was gone by the release date.

 

[Yecht]

OP acting like E-40 didn't drop 392 albums that all went double pencil. fukk outta here fakkit :badass: