From a purely logical perspective how does Jesus being God even make sense?

[The Realist Perspective]

Christianity is black

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How is Christianity black?

 

[Uitomy]

How is Christianity black?

It's not, in fact though, black wasn't even a term used to describe people till like the 17-1800's

It's an oxymoron really

 

[The Realist Perspective]

It's not, in fact though, black wasn't even a term used to describe people till like the 17-1800's

It's an oxymoron really

All semantics aside what are you trying to say?

 

[null]

traditional african religions are the wave, huh?...these the same religions where ancient practitioners venerated warrior "gods", but couldn't keep the european from subjugating them on their own land?...advocates tout these religions as the pinnacle of spiritual enlightenment and empowerment, but shyt not adding up...

Spoiler: ...

Acts 8:27-39:

"27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot [he] read Esaias [Isaiah] the prophet.

29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, [the eunuch said] I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing."


arguments are always presented on here to try to discredit ethiopia when discussing the early adoption of christianity in africa, but what's always conveniently absent from the argument is the fact that ethiopia is the only country on the continent to never have been colonized by the European. the earliest manuscripts from the Book of Acts, where the above verses come from, are dated to around 200-250 AD, but its commonly accepted by scholars that it was originally written between 80-90 AD...

whether you're conservative with its dating or not, it was written at least a century before king ezana of the aksumite empire embraced christianity and made it the national religion...

the position of the eunuch mentioned in Acts was that of a treasurer and high ranking official within the ethiopian royal court who eagerly and willingly choose Christ. the fact that he was a public official with status and influence meant that recognition and reverence for scripture was not something relegated to the poor and ignorant, it was embraced by the wealthy and educated as well...

give me 3 dates.

1. when genesis happened.

2. when matthew happened.

3. when eth adopted christianity.

then explain the significance of that.

interesting that the only nation in africa to maintain it's independence was also the first nation on the continent to willingly adopt christianity...

not only NOT interesting but also wrong.

ethiopia was not colonised but did not remain independent. it was conquered and occupied when the italians returned during WWII

(maybe god was asleep during WWII? maybe the pope put in a special word).

liberia was never colonised nor occupied.

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i haven't got time to read PAGES .. summarise your points or they will be ignored.

 

[Geek Nasty]

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never comprehend

 

[Uitomy]

All semantics aside what are you trying to say?

A religion with no concept of being black can't be black.

You could argue it being European/african etc what have you but it can't be black because it ain't originate with that as any kind of acceptable term.

 

[null]

The way i interpret, God is within all of us and all around us. Jesus is the son of God but we are all the "children of God". So it's kinda like God would be the sum of all consciousness and all of science, physics, absolute truths, etc. which is why as humans we cannot "see" God because it would be like staring at everything that exists, has existed, will exist and accessing the sum of all lifeforms' consciousness throughout the universe. It's impossible and our brains probably wouldn't be able to process all that data. But our beings are part of it so when you pray, yes in a way you are partially praying to yourself.

I think Jesus in the Bible understood these concepts on some level based on the level of knowledge at the time and he was trying to break it down to his contemporaries but in a way they would understand (by using metaphors, parables, etc.).;

This is just my theory of how to make it all logical. I'm not saying I'm right or that Jesus existed for sure exactly as described in the bible. Just trying to make logical sense of the story if the bible.

frame your new ideas in the christain framework brehs

toss those gringo fables in the bin. then start again.

 

[null]

A religion with no concept of being black can't be black.

brehdom has been on this planet circa 100 - 200K years.

for 90% of that time brehs were sitting on their hands waiting for gringos to bring the truth to them. according to some on here.

not only did gringos bring their "truths" they also defined those 100K+ years of black philosophy and religions useless, evil and wicked.

now brehs want to argue for those gringos.

you couldn't make it up




chineman has his own.

japanese man has his own.

meanwhile ...

 

[Figaro]

I’ve always thought Jesus is God but humbled himself around others to call himself Son of God.

I only know that because I seen 1 of them Christian vs Islam debates.

He said there is a lot of similarities between the Bible & Quran but 1 of the notable differences is that Prophet Muhammad never claimed to be God but only a prophet.

Never did research it though.

 

[Armchair Militant]

Even when I was a Christian, I didn’t believe that.

 

[Uachet]

There are over 4k religions on this planet, with most of them having 1 or more gods. Also, which religion you follow is strongly dependent on where you were born and to which family you were born into. Few people swap one religion for another, compared to those who just remain in the religion they are born into (well unless they are conquered).

Taking all of that into consideration as a teenager, I decided that I was an agnostic deist. Meaning that if there is a creator, that being probably just set things into motion and left it alone after that. That being does not care about what we are doing, if such a being exist. The agnostic portion is just me admitting that I do not know what the truth is on this issue or if there is a deity (or creator) at all.

So while some of you argue over whether your religion is the right one or if there is no deity/creator at all, I will just admit that I quite frankly do not know and no amount of holy books, claims of mircales, etc will change the fact that I do not know.

 

[The Realist Perspective]

A religion with no concept of being black can't be black.

You could argue it being European/african etc what have you but it can't be black because it ain't originate with that as any kind of acceptable term.

We in modern terms definitely know what bro is trying to say though. He is claiming Christianity is an African religion. He possibly may be even saying that it is of African origin. Which neither is straight up not true.

 

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[Diunx]

It doesn't, Christians are worshiping idols

 

[timeless]

The old testament and new testament don't link up at all.
Supposedly the new testament is supposed to have a foundation in the old testament but nothing about Jesus nor any of his promises, or purpose, or even existence is mentioned anywhere in the old testament.

People stay in the new testament, and talk about Jesus Jesus Jesus but who exactly is this Jesus? Yahweh nor Abraham, Isaac, nor Israel spoke of him.
Neither did Moses.
Neither did David.
Neither did Solomon.
Not once is he mentioned, or his supposed deeds mentioned in the old testament.
So you then have to think, who is this Jesus, really?
Could it really be the devil? Because now, people worship this Jesus, when Yahweh said not to put any other gods before me.
Who is this Jesus that says, you must go through me to get to the father.
Is that why none of your prayers are answered? Why african americans are the most religious, Jesus Jesus Jesus, yet are the most down bad after all these years?

Curious.

My interpretation:

Jesus is the ambassador for Yaweh and the example for us to follow in general.

He's not the devil, the devil causes confusion and is a liar.

You're not supposed to worship Jesus.

To go through him means to live as he did.

People's prayers are answered by whichever god they are serving. Doesn't matter which one either. You'd be surprised by folks from all beliefs and cultures having their prayers delivered.