From The New Yorker: "My Great-Grandfather, the Nigerian Slave-Trader"

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Literally just said she had Irish in her....

Most Black Americans do - due to enslavement.

And?



This Saint Patrick’s Day essay will briefly review Ireland’s anti-slavery history before focussing on the more representative and troubling issue of slave ownership among those of Irish descent. What could be more appropriate?
 

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Most Black Americans do - due to enslavement.

And?
So do a lot of West Indians and continental Africans due to slavery and colonialism my point is u said u got white blood in you
And so did the other poster
 

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All people have dark history, recent and long past.
 

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The mental gymnastics in this thread is hilarious. There are systems and dynamics that are present and prevalent in third world countries that are not defensible. What caused/ causes those systems to exist may vary, but the defenses on some "you coddled Americans don't understand" is weak.
 

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So do a lot of West Indians and continental Africans due to slavery and colonialism my point is u said u got white blood in you
And so did the other poster

Again...and?

What does that have to do with what he stated?

My opinions and comments don't have ish to do with having "white" or "cac" due to my ancestors being enslaved.

What sense does that make?

Do Nigerians or Africans have slave trader in them? or some other negative stereotypical "African" practice or behavior cause of their African blood?

And Colonialism is not Slavery..... I hate the comparison.
 

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What part of my points do you disagree with?
That tribalism is an impediment to progress?
That the division amongst tribes didn't make it easier for Europeans and Arabs to colonize and enslave Africans?
That Africa needs forward thinking leadership and governance?
That basic needs need to be met before many Africans can consider tackling systemic issues that are rooted in age old cultural customs and beliefs?
You need to understand tribal affairs before you speak on it. Otherwise you will just come off as an ignorant fool. It's not different than an African coming to America, like, I didn't realize Blacks were really slaves. Yall look at them, like :dwillhuh: are you dumb but they really believed yall wasnt slaves like that.

They assumed it was like African slavery which it wasn't. Once they realize the real, they get shocked.

That's what you sound like to me. End tribalism, just fight white supremacy. nikka, what white supremacy is around them. White folks barely go to Nigeria outside of the major ports where they can make or steal money. Even then, they got their own army. The ppl dont even have their own like that. Yall just sound plain dumb and come up with strong opinions. That's what they find to be dumbfounding.

Europeans never got along till Berlin Conference and fought even then. Europeans power came from the Americas in the 1400s. Before then, they had no resources to be or do anything other than be global losers. They copied, stole and burned down everything from Africa.

Today, Europe is only somewhat together due to their hate for others. Yall dont even realize what ya'll talking about.

What's impeding progress is Nigeria is resource allocation. There are no jobs in Igboland, roads are shytty, everyone wants an education but they have a merit system which benefits the North where they have energy, running electricity, running water, good paved roads, lavish weddings, etc. SW has it but its extreme in rich or poor. SE is struggling and that's regardless of the education as most of the best Universities are in the SE. Igbos tend to be the most educated but with no resources and discrimination, they have issues. You can say just end it and that's what the people would like but TPTB dont want that. UN dont help. This is what you don't get which you should since you Black in America and this what everyone does to Blacks here.

Africa had good leaders. Whites push them out or kill em. Zimbabwe for example, Mugabe's wife was going to be a leader for the people, Cacs made it their mission that it will never happen and it did not.

Africa are currently dominated by their European colonial counterparts. This is why Africa has no progress. Their like Black leaders here. They do for themselves and their network and not for the collective as their ain't enough for the people.

nikka :gucci: everyone knows that. The issue is, the problem ain't easy to solve. I just told you about the lack of available resources. :martin:


It's like you understand Black Americans issues but have zero clue about others
 

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Yes - it was. Your statement: You don't even have any heritage that you can trace nor do you know your own power or blood. You do not know what you are talking about. You just like hearing yourself talk, shut up.

You made a assumption and used a well-known dig many Africans and White people love to try to come at AADOS with. I know my "heritage and own power and blood."

And what the hell does that even mean really -- Africans got some superpower shyt or supernatural ish?

Let me know -- cause the power and blood they got aint doing too much for many on the continent now.
He doesnt. That's an accurate statement

You don't know what you have. You don't know what you can do. You don't know your DNA makeup for more than numbers. You don't know who you really are. You just know what you became while here. Your kin folk know more, it just dies more with each generation. Never forget your past. It will get you closer and closer to your solution of who you are
 

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Again...and?

What does that have to do with what he stated?

My opinions and comments don't have ish to do with having "white" or "cac" due to my ancestors being enslaved.

What sense does that make?

Do Nigerians or Africans have slave trader in them? or some other negative stereotypical "African" practice or behavior cause of their African blood?


Well if they don’t what was the purpose of your thread?
I can see you are in ur element here so go ahead

I simply found it amusing u got defensive with someone pointing out the white dna in u (which is not ur fault) when u literally just mentioned ur Irish dna 2 posts above.

Have a great thread


*btw we could be related I have an Irish surname
 

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Smh, why can’t people just admit it was or is some fuked up shyt

The whole “bu bu now the Igbo are Christians” is a fuked up explanation also, so it was the white mans religion and white man laws that stopped the practice? SMH

If you're referring to me with this post then you couldn't be further from the truth. I was just explaining the reason for the differences in attitudes to the Osu now compared to the olden days.
 

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Well if they don’t what was the purpose of your thread?
I can see you are in ur element here so go ahead

I simply found it amusing u got defensive with someone pointing out the white dna in u (which is not ur fault) when u literally just mentioned ur Irish dna 2 posts above.

Have a great thread

I don't mean to be rude - nor defensive - my apologies.

I just think it's rude and a dig people use at AADOS about having "white" dna -- knowing -- as you stated -- it's not our fault.

His statement was meant to be disrespectful to me and I took it as disrespectful to my ancestors. To use that as a reasoning for my opinion or reaction --- is out-of-line and dumb.
 

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I understand - but how can they be our people - if they don't accept you nor see you as such. I have a whole bunch of blood -- Irish, Europeans my people too? I would say NO.
Good point. Do you not at least feel you should try to make a connection with these groups? I as an Igbo love researching and connecting with the cultures of my AA and West Indian cousins in the diaspora. :yeshrug:
 

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Yes - it was. Your statement: You don't even have any heritage that you can trace nor do you know your own power or blood. You do not know what you are talking about. You just like hearing yourself talk, shut up.

You made a assumption and used a well-known dig many Africans and White people love to try to come at AADOS with. I know my "heritage and own power and blood."

And what the hell does that even mean really -- Africans got some superpower shyt or supernatural ish?

Let me know -- cause the power and blood they got aint doing too much for many on the continent now.
blood & traditions couldn't have been too valuable or "powerful" if these slave trading participators were selling niccas off to the meatgrinder for dumb shyt
 

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If you're referring to me with this post then you couldn't be further from the truth. I was just explaining the reason for the differences in attitudes to the Osu now compared to the olden days.

The author is to blame she didn't distinguish it very well. She said igbo and didn't really specify well, which sub group or places or types of igbo people still believe in the customs.

She wanted brownie points. Or fame or w.e she got what she wanted.

But Africans nikkas still bugging with the

"I like to sleep my our house girls in Africa":gucci:
 

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The author is to blame she didn't distinguish it very well. She said igbo and didn't really specify well, which sub group or places or types of igbo people still believe in the customs.

She wanted brownie points. Or fame or w.e she got what she wanted.

But Africans nikkas still bugging with the

"I like to sleep my our house girls in Africa":gucci:
She probably don't know. This was in the New Yorker, you know she's probably a shea butter bedwenching. They hate anything Black
 
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