From The New Yorker: "My Great-Grandfather, the Nigerian Slave-Trader"

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all three of those things are practices that need to end because they violate individual freedom and are morally and economically detrimental to black people

these are the type of customs that made africa amenable to slavery

Wait, you're against servants? :jbhmm:

You know that servants are paid, right? :mjlol:
 

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I can understand my african American brothers and sisters/ Caribbeans not understanding this. But that was how things were done.

The exploitation of people like her father, should be held accountable and made to pay.

I'm of Caribbean descent.

I kinda get it but maybe thats cause I don't have to suffer in the same as AAs so I can afford to look it somewhat more objectively.
What they did was wrong but its stuff every race has done, it just happened to turn out far worse.

I feel in someways that Nigerians and AAs have to come together but that will never happen due to rightful historical resentment and egos.
 

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I'm of Caribbean descent.

I kinda get it but maybe thats cause I don't have to suffer in the same as AAs so I can afford to look it somewhat more objectively.
What they did was wrong but its stuff every race has done, it just happened to turn out far worse.

I feel in someways that Nigerians and AAs have to come together but that will never happen due to rightful historical resentment and egos.

This is the Coli. Outside of this website, Nigerians and Af-Ams get along fine.
 

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By people who don't understand these concepts, it seems.
And duke doesn't even want to try to understand it. If he was genuinely curious and wanted to know, he'd stop lumping everything into one basket when they are all distinctly unique customs. He's probably never seen it in practice, never met or talked with anyone who's lived it, etc. Yet here he is with his Beats by Dre headphones on, surfing the net on his macbook pro trying to tell people that the very customs/traditions they use to survive and better themselves are "violations of freedom" and "enabled American slavery". oh there's poverty? well the government should just create universal public education for all and donate some books to the library. :mjlol:.
 

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You're a miserable bytch!!!!

Yeah, I am sometimes.... overall I am very happy and blessed. I am just well-versed and interested in history - and I speak it like it is. No airs or sugar coating.

Sometimes it hurts feelings. :smile:

But, in reality -- it's the truth. Most AA don't know any Africans. It is what it is.

Have a great week! :smile:
 

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yeah it is from my eyes, and its a legit POV.

I think what people want to know is how exactly did slavery come about and why did it go on for so long aside from the white supremacy part of it, you have given the answer, its that african themselves had systems which violated the individual freedom of africans

whats nutty is that you refuse to see it as such
nikka a slave system has existed since the beginning of time amongst all cultures. The White man's version of slavery is just the most demonic. Stop acting naive and go educate yourself.
 

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Medical, war tactics at the time, they had better weapons, they were skilled but this wasn't racial, at least initially. It was Catholic v. Muslims, then it became white v. Black.


China, Japan still does a lot of their customs. Business wise, it's extremely westernized. Moreso than China. African nations have responded like all of the other countries has done. They lack resources. All of their natural resources are controlled by European capitalist nations. What more do you want from African nations?

You have no clue. You can study all day but what have you done in America to make better for Blacks here?


I know we couldn't and never thought of it.

Medical, war tactics at the time, they had better weapons, they were skilled but this wasn't racial, at least initially. It was Catholic v. Muslims, then it became white v. Black.
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Hmm no, the moors in Europe had technology equivalence but they got beaten back in 1492

And when Europeans landed in west Africa they had a huge technological advantage over West Africans which is how Africa was conquered and dominated and that technological advantage still exists till this day

It was too late when they tried. Far too late. No one ever did anything by skin color before.

Ok, we know that, but I’m answering yhe question of how black people ended up at the bottom and why it’s very dangerous for black people to NOT be pan africanist

African nations have not copied other nations, they actually have gone the opposite, it’s been noted that countries like China and Korea were poorer than african countries 50 years ago

I don’t want anything from African nations per se but people should not negrosplain cultural practices that are morally and economically detrimental

I haven’t said anything that is non factual and you have not debunked anything I said
 

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nikka a slave system has existed since the beginning of time amongst all cultures. The White man's version of slavery is just the most demonic. Stop acting naive and go educate yourself.

I think people forget that Slavery has and still exists.

Its just the slavery we're involved with is uniquely evil and depraved with some extreme effects.

Even servants were common in Europe.
 
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