fukk what you think about Def Jux... Funcrusher Plus is hard

[Ohene]

lol despite all the bullshyt...its still a classic @Art Barr

 

[Thizzlam]

That fact about Rupert Murdock is nothing new. His sons liked rap, and they were rich. Blah.

And are you saying Rawkus was a pro white agenda? The same label that pushed Black on Both Sides WAAAAAAY harder than anything else there? What's so pro-white about Blackstarr?

While I hate most Def Jux fans, I don't think they killed the underground, not so much as they just dorked it the fukk out. The Internet in general was the nail in the coffin.

Edit: in hindsight, I should've said that I hate the stereotypical def jux fan.

Those underground cassette tapes didn't really sell once everybody had CD burners. This is the main reason why the underground saw a decline in popularity. But to call the movement dead is way off.

 

[definition]

no, I am not, placing blame erroneosly.
go google, slug checks el-p.

you are giving elp/company flow a pass.


art barr

Now that this has re-surfaced, it occurred to me that you must mean SOLE (portland maine, then moved the bay; anticon records) checks el-p. He had that song, "Dear El-P." Slug collaborated and did shows with both artists.

Also, I think El-p has re-established his relevance with the Run the Jewels records. Good for him ... and they're good records.

 

[Ohene]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That album and the legion of corny faux alt "real" albums that followed in the same vein emerged out of the death of hip hop's only legitimate underground. Art Beezy is spot on with this shyt, cat have rewritten history and pretty much reinvented what the term "underground" meant.

fukk all that...at the end of the day the album was flames and influential. beats and rhymes...all other shyt aside you cant front on this album

 

[Ohene]

Ur top 5 from that list?

The Cold Vein
3:16 the album
Fantastic Damage
I Phantom
Hells Winter

 

[TripleAgent]

Ur top 5 from that list?

I'll Sleep When You're Dead
Hellz Winter
The Cold Vein
Fantastic Damage
Write-in:
None Shall Pass (Used to hate Aesop Rock, but this album is dope as hell to me)

 

[SirBiatch]

and OP inadvertently exposes that he's a cac with subpar taste

to be fair, that 8 Steps beat is dope. and I think it's hilarious that Art "bboy" Barr is shytting on it. When his music sounds like Def Jux cutting room floor bullshyt

 

[Art Barr]

fukk all that...at the end of the day the album was flames and influential. beats and rhymes...all other shyt aside you cant front on this album

The albums was fake pr and reception and they could not rap well.
El p is the racist white underground puff.
He perpetrated the racism in the underground to where it splintered into culture thief heaven.
He started the I am white I do not have to be skilled but act like I am a purist but not skilled in their pillar they attempt to be in.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

I don't have to google. I was around during that time.
I was writing for elemental magazine in 00/01, and a number of sites before that. I've done interviews with/stories about a number of these acts (including sole, atmosphere, all natural, aceyalone, and many others), and was around the midwest underground at the time.

I understand that Slug and El-P are friends and collaborators. But, so far, all you've managed to do is connect them, which is common knowledge (El-P's def jux artists toured extensively with rhyme sayers artists).
You've simply made no case to support the "co flow is racist" premise. You don't have to like their music, or the album being discussed in this thread ... but it's pretty clear to me you've overplayed your hand.

First off all this occurred before 2000, breh.
So, your time line is flawed and slug was already the top draw by 96 from mass racially biaaed influx of fans then.
I was actually the top draw in the venue and know the real sentiment, in real time.
Plus I know history and how it all and arose on hhi.Com as well.
Including the pick a perfect magical negro just because you like them but fits none of the misappropiated criteria they held everyone else too.

I do not have to lie on some wack ass fraud Murdoch pr fake ass group.

I built draw for real,..not through pr and label planting.
which company flow also started on the underground, as well.
In your writing you must have missed the real sentiment.
Now are you black or white,..a
You keep harping upon friendship like these are not my contemporaries or I did not hire them in the venue or know them socially.
Or create a venue for them to socialize.

I am the protégé to the dude whose draw they all cling on just for starters.

Art Barr


Stop giving pass to culture thieves, breh.....

 

[definition]

First off all this occurred before 2000, breh.
So, your time line is flawed and slug was already the top draw by 96 from mass racially biaaed influx of fans then.
I was actually the top draw in the venue and know the real sentiment, in real time.
Plus I know history and how it all and arose on hhi.Com as well.
Including the pick a perfect magical negro just because you like them but fits none of the misappropiated criteria they held everyone else too.

I do not have to lie on some wack ass fraud Murdoch pr fake ass group.

I built draw for real,..not through pr and label planting.
which company flow also started on the underground, as well.
In your writing you must have missed the real sentiment.
Now are you black or white,..a
You keep harping upon friendship like these are not my contemporaries or I did not hire them in the venue or know them socially.
Or create a venue for them to socialize.

I am the protégé to the dude whose draw they all cling on just for starters.

Art Barr


Stop giving pass to culture thieves, breh.....

No one is accusing you of lying, man. In my (limited) experience discussing these things with you, I've noticed you're "confused" more than you should be. I recall having to correct you on matters of rock and rap. So no matter how authoritatively you try to sound, I don't believe you (you need more people).

I was around back then also. Congrats on all you've done for the scene/culture/whatever ... but, since you choose to be anonymous, please excuse me if I continue to see you as some faceless poster who is often confused about names/timelines/etc.

Tell JU we all say what's up. Hope he can put you back on soon.

 

[nahnah]

That Perceptionists album is dope AF


It's virtually ignored

 

[AnonymityX1000]

That Perceptionists album is dope AF


It's virtually ignored

Black Dialogue is the shyt. Mr. Lif is the shyt in general.

 

[Mowgli]

That shyt has to be one of the more well produced 90s hip hop albums

Hot trash that had no point.

 

[Mowgli]

fukk all that...at the end of the day the album was flames and influential. beats and rhymes...all other shyt aside you cant front on this album

Who did it influence?

 

[Self_Born7]

word... 8 steps to perfection, and vital nerve..
and Mr. Len went to HS with me and stayed around the corner,,, cool as dude... real quiet and to himself at school..
I still got the white label press of 8 steps/vital nerve he blessed me with.

met Big Juss, thru the underground circuit in the A. when my group was up and coming.