Gary Johnson's Presidential Campaign is Over

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All he had to say was

"With respect to what?" or "I don't think I understand the question"

That would have been farrrrrrrrr better than what happened, which was that clearly, the man did not have a clue.

If he had said my previous two suggestions, he could have easily spun it into a "media hit job" when really it was'nt a gotcha question, it wasn't a trap, the man simply doesn't have a clue and that's all there is to it.


I disagree, and your suggestions were for him to be evasive when presented with a question that can be described as ambigious at least. The average American would have a deer in the headlights reaction if presented with a question on Aleppo. That question would be like me asking a poster on Jezebel or Reddit, "what are your thoughts on TLR?" They would likely react the same as Johnson. Now if I ask, "what are your thoughts on the Coli?", they'd have a whole lot to say. Aleppo isnt and should not be the key nor main talking point when it comes to Syria or Middle Eastern affairs.

This illustrates how little the media thinks of the American people as well. Its a case of the media vetting candidates for the public with goal posts higher than what should be reasonably expected. The average American voter isnt concerned about Johnson's position on Aleppo. However the average voter is concerned about his positions on foreign policy including the Middle East, and including Syria. Its no coincidental this hit job happened at a time when folks are wondering whether Johnson will hit the needed percentage to participate in the debates.
 

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What happens with Trump as opposed to any other candidate is the fact that he hasn't been in politics gives him a super pass amongst some folks and a lot of the media imo.
I'm telling you that's not it...he gives non-descript answers that are "responses" but do not necessarily answer the question.

He literally did it all night last night during the forum thing.

He does what most politicians do when they are posed with a question that they know could hurt their status amongst their voters or put them in a position where their reputation can be harmed.

The media hasn't given Trump a pass at all...he's blacklisted most of the places that would hold his feet to the fire and the rest won't do it because they don't want to lose access.

In fact the reason why he removed the "blacklist" this week is because he's so close to the election day. Their strategy was to minimize the ability for the media to actually attack him by restricting their access and giving them responses to questions but not answers that would unequivocally reveal his positions on certain things before he gets a chance to gauge the public's feelings on them.
 

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I disagree, and your suggestions were for him to be evasive when presented with a question that can be described as ambigious at least. The average American would have a deer in the headlights reaction if presented with a question on Aleppo. That question would be like me asking a poster on Jezebel or Reddit, "what are your thoughts on TLR?" They would likely react the same as Johnson. Now if I ask, "what are your thoughts on the Coli?", they'd have a whole lot to say. Aleppo isnt and should not be the key nor main talking point when it comes to Syria or Middle Eastern affairs.

This illustrates how little the media thinks of the American people as well. Its a case of the media vetting candidates for the public with goal posts higher than what should be reasonably expected. The average American voter isnt concerned about Johnson's position on Aleppo. However the average voter is concerned about his positions on foreign policy including the Middle East, and including Syria. Its no coincidental this hit job happened at a time when folks are wondering whether Johnson will hit the needed percentage to participate in the debates.
The average American has no business running for President so all of that is largely irrelevant.

What was and is now exposed is that Johnson's foreign affairs knowledge and experience is abysmal at best.

He is and has always been a non-factor in this race except to his most loyal followers
 

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Did his gargling of Hillary's nuts in every post leave room for ambiguity and uncertainty?


I havent been through this thread in its entirety nor perused through HL in a while so admittedly I'm unfamiliar with his/her views. Makes sense that he/she wants to see Johnson fail as a couple articles and polls have indicated Johnson appears to siphon more voters away from Hillary than Trump. I dont have a dog in any campaigns, although admittedly GJ is someone I'm slightly sympathetic towards. I think Libertarians are grossly idealistic, but still deserve to be heard in consideration of how grossly idealistic this current two party system that is democracy is.
 
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I disagree, and your suggestions were for him to be evasive when presented with a question that can be described as ambigious at least. The average American would have a deer in the headlights reaction if presented with a question on Aleppo. That question would be like me asking a poster on Jezebel or Reddit, "what are your thoughts on TLR?" They would likely react the same as Johnson. Now if I ask, "what are your thoughts on the Coli?", they'd have a whole lot to say. Aleppo isnt and should not be the key nor main talking point when it comes to Syria or Middle Eastern affairs.

This illustrates how little the media thinks of the American people as well. Its a case of the media vetting candidates for the public with goal posts higher than what should be reasonably expected. The average American voter isnt concerned about Johnson's position on Aleppo. However the average voter is concerned about his positions on foreign policy including the Middle East, and including Syria. Its no coincidental this hit job happened at a time when folks are wondering whether Johnson will hit the needed percentage to participate in the debates.
This is the problem with idiots and politics. If a person doesn't know or care about a situation, it isn't a fukking virtue for a candidate for the presidency to have the same level of knowledge as the average person on the street. People complain that politicians are awful, but have the lowest possible standards for them:scust:
Didn't take long:mjlol:

Embarrassing.
 

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The average American has no business running for President so all of that is largely irrelevant. So much for Democracy and the will of the people. I mean granted most shouldn't run for the office, but that doesn't mean the media should tip its hand and decide who is and isnt credible with hit and spin pieces. Especially this close to a 3rd party candidate qualifying for the debates with the two most unpopular candidates in this country's history.

What was and is now exposed is that Johnson's foreign affairs knowledge and experience is abysmal at best.

As compared to who? Because the other two arent looking remarkable either. One is unapologetically ignorant, the other....well Benghazi......Libya.....her husband.....Bosnia.....Rwanda.......wag the dog......

He is and has always been a non-factor in this race except to his most loyal followers

Well, I cant speak on that. I'm undecided and neutral. The non-factor part though, seems the media is a little bit to giddy to ensure that part.
 

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Real life example:

George Bush didn't know there was a difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims.

Then went and attacked Iraq without a clue as to what to do after the invasion!

Yes, that type of ignorance has real repercussions if you running for President
 

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Real life example:

George Bush didn't know there was a difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims.

Then went and attacked Iraq without a clue as to what to do after the invasion!

Yes, that type of ignorance has real repercussions if you running for President


I put that more on his administration than him. Granted the buck stops with him, but that agenda was set in motion long before he got in office. Syria and Iran are the last pieces of that same agenda, until Barry came and fukked the game up. :jawalrus:
 

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I'm telling you that's not it...he gives non-descript answers that are "responses" but do not necessarily answer the question.

He literally did it all night last night during the forum thing.

He does what most politicians do when they are posed with a question that they know could hurt their status amongst their voters or put them in a position where their reputation can be harmed.

The media hasn't given Trump a pass at all...he's blacklisted most of the places that would hold his feet to the fire and the rest won't do it because they don't want to lose access.

In fact the reason why he removed the "blacklist" this week is because he's so close to the election day. Their strategy was to minimize the ability for the media to actually attack him by restricting their access and giving them responses to questions but not answers that would unequivocally reveal his positions on certain things before he gets a chance to gauge the public's feelings on them.
I'm saying in the eyes of some voters, they give him somewhat of a pass also due to being "successful" no matter what Cuz he must know what to do to be in his position. I think what I mainly meant was he has been given a pass when he's been interviewed or on a debate stage.

Everything you said is correct but it rubs me the wrong way because this wasn't done til he and Hillary were officially the nominees of their party.
 

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Foreign policy is probably one of the areas where the President has the most leeway in formulating policy compared to domestic policy. He didn't have the politician non answer answer ready where they meander and avoid the question. I think if he knew it was in Syria he could have pivoted towards talking about Syria in general and how as a libertarian he is against nation building and intervention etc. That is how politicians tend to get around these issues.
 

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:what: How the fukk could he have a knowledgeable position on the Syria war when he's never even heard of the city that's at the epicenter of it all? Him not knowing what Aleppo is proves he's simply not abreast of the situation at all, and thus any answer he gives would just be regurgitated non-interventionis/libertarian talking points devoid of facts and specifics pertaining to the situation.

You would expect a presidential candidate would be aware of the basics about a civil war in a geopolitical flashpoint that killed a few hundred thousand people out of intellectual curiosity at least, to say nothing of humanitarian concern and national security.


Tell that :wrist: ass dude to put down the stickiest of the icky and read Reuters or something.

THIS
 
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