Gawker: "Black People Are Cowards"

[Tommy Knocks]

I feel what you saying, but just because 1 black man becomes an owner of the mode and means of production doesn't mean that the other 99 aren't still wage workers...progress to you isn't necessarily progress for people who take home barely enough to feed their families while their work actually made the owners millions...

so then what you're saying is Sterling should remain owner or you much prefer another Sterling own the Clippers instead of Magic?

If you thought this event was going to change the world overnight or if you thnk anything can be changed over night, you are sadly mistaken. I celebrate progression. I don't talk about "ya but" I recognize it takes.......progression.

 

[kermit da hustla]

We know you're anti-black...you are the coward that the article speaks of, not everyone else...we already know how you hate your own kind in this country and love your white friends...we get it..thanks for reiterating this again, and again, and again

you're embarrassing yourself, breh. look at the daps i've been getting in the past two days, for statements about this clippers fiasco. i'm as pro-black as they come. the modern black has become a coward.

if you was really about that "militant" life, you'd agree. but you're not.

 

[yo moms]

I disagree. I'm not a nihilist. Oppression can be stopped but it takes work

theres no way. people are content with doing just enough to survive. people are even content to be broke. they dont care as long as they pay their bills.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

The fact that Magic had to wait this long and in this kind of situation to even have the *CHANCE* to own, tells me what I need to know

agree to disagree

"It took Rosa Parks for her to be tired to demand a front seat" ass nikka.


just like the article stated, these new nikkas. simple way to divert from having to come forth and participate in any struggle, is to simply highlight how the event isnt changing anything instantly. easy cop out.

 

[Poitier]

"It took Rosa Parks for her to be tired and demand a front seat" ass nikka.


just like the article stated, these new nikkas. simple way to divert from having to come forth and participate in any struggle, is to simply highlight how the event isnt changing anything instantly. easy cop out.

Rosa Parks' actions led to more *meaningful* action by Blacks than Magic owning The Clippers. It's intellectually dishonest to compare the two.

Agree to disagree

 

[blackzeus]

Pretty sure Magic wants to buy the clippers and he would be the majority stock holder.

that's pretty horrible posting breh

 

[Nefrodamus]

you're embarrassing yourself, breh. look at the daps i've been getting in the past two days, for statements about this clippers fiasco. i'm as pro-black as they come. the modern black has become a coward.

if you was really about that "militant" life, you'd agree. but you're not.

So what do you do for your community?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Rosa Parks' actions led to more *meaningful* action by Blacks than Magic owning The Clippers. It's intellectually dishonest to compare the two.

Agree to disagree

We don't know what the actions of said events will prompt in the coming days, it's only been 3 days. but I do know that finally having a black owner is better than yesterday when we had none ().

 

[kp404]

do then what you're saying is Sterling should remain owner or you much prefer another Sterling own the Clippers instead of Magic?

If you thought this event was going to change the world overnight or if you thnk anything can be changed over night, you are sadly mistaken. I celebrate progression. I don't talk about "ya but" I recognize it takes.......progression.

I agree its not an overnight thing, but let's be clear historically: Sterling has been on record for being a racist bigot and a slumlord for years now. This isn't a revelation at all. he and other owners like him have revealed themselves long time ago yet he's still the owner; he should have been gone a while ago.

As for progress and what it means, let's look at it from the lens of the black freedom movement. People shyt on the Black Power Era because it was not as "successful" as the Civil Rights Era; the Civil RIghts Era had landmark court cases in the 1960s...based on the Civil Rights Era, do you consider the black population as making progress, because if you look at the numbers economically, besides one percent, and adjust inflation, its still the same as we are being oppressed in numerous ways: we are hypersegregated, our political voice is silenced, education is at an all time low, and incarceration and state sponsored/private white violence is rising (conceal and carry)...

What exactly is progress? Its not just race, brother. its class too. Magic/Jordan are two. What about the other 99 percent? Is it still progress if those two remain the only owners for another decade? And again, if they add 0e black person every 20 years to ownership, you consider that progress? Because 99 percent will always be exploited wage laborers...my point is, until the political economy is restructured, racial capitalism will continue to oppress...

 

[blackzeus]

it has to be collective. If all of the players sat out, or enough to disrupt the play of each game, it would crash so many markets in the country. NBA Playoffs is big, big money and the owners/NBA execs would oust Sterling with no hesitation if the players fukked up the money. Sure, the players would lose some money too, but that's the sacrifice they have to be willing to make; remember, capitalism cannot coincide with collectivism and teamwork; if the workers band together, they damage the mode and means of production; Marx wasn't lying there; the workers have to be willing to make the jump though

One thing is crazy though, players will strike and miss half a season over money, but not this sh*t With that said, what would not playing really resolve? Sterling would apologize and that would be that. You can't just fire an owner, nor can you demand an owner sell his team breh.

 

[kp404]

So what do you do for your community?

Nothing. He is not i9n a black community. He is with the whites and @kermit da hustla has is NOT pro-black at all. And he doesn't know what a militant is; white people call any black person that cares about their people militants because their stupid; Kermit has adopted white culture and demeans the black masses that don't live in his elite neighborhood; he looks down on the 99 percent

 

[kp404]

One thing is crazy though, players will strike and miss half a season over money, but not this sh*t With that said, what would not playing really resolve? Sterling would apologize and that would be that. You can't just fire an owner, nor can you demand an owner sell his team breh.

Not if they demand his removal or no playoffs. That would shake the world, not just the U.S., but the world

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I agree its not an overnight thing, but let's be clear historically: Sterling has been on record for being a racist bigot and a slumlord for years now. This isn't a revelation at all. he and other owners like him have revealed themselves long time ago yet he's still the owner; he should have been gone a while ago.

As for progress and what it means, let's look at it from the lens of the black freedom movement. People shyt on the Black Power Era because it was not as "successful" as the Civil Rights Era; the Civil RIghts Era had landmark court cases in the 1960s...based on the Civil Rights Era, do you consider the black population as making progress, because if you look at the numbers economically, besides one percent, and adjust inflation, its still the same as we are being oppressed in numerous ways: we are hypersegregated, our political voice is silenced, education is at an all time low, and incarceration and state sponsored/private white violence is rising (conceal and carry)...

What exactly is progress? Its not just race, brother. its class too. Magic/Jordan are two. What about the other 99 percent? Is it still progress if those two remain the only owners for another decade? And again, if they add 0e black person every 20 years to ownership, you consider that progress? Because 99 percent will always be exploited wage laborers...my point is, until the political economy is restructured, racial capitalism will continue to oppress...

Interesting.

As for Sterling and his past remarks. I'm not really looking at the past, he's finally under the hot seat and that's what matters. All that shoulda coulda woulda don't fix shyt.

Yes. 2 black owners the next decade is most def progression, just as it was when we only had 2 black baseball players. I dont think you understand how progression works. You need those 2 to have 8 tomorrow. You can't just go from 0 to 8. That's now how life works.


With that being said, you folks sure do like to debbie down, so how about you give a proposal on what should be done, step by step, in the coming week.

Here's where things get silent................

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

NFL, NBA, and MLB are global money makers in the billions. Even though I don't think it would ever happen, so this example is to show the power that the players (workers) have. If all the players of all 3 leagues went on strike the enture year, we are talking about a revenue crash that is so detrimental that it would shake up markets across the oceans...it would be devastating

Plus, if athletes, especially superstars with endorsements, began speaking out against oppression, it would definitely influence not only the youth, but others as well; the owners would hate it, but it would change alot. Athletes are given iconic status by the masses due to their ability to dominate in the sporting arena; Add in social commentary and social activism and you would have changing mindsets on the youth. its not just parents who are key role models, its also the figures that are propagandized through maqss media everyday; could you imagine if everytime you saw Lebron on tv he was speaking about blacks collectivizing to stop police brutality at all costs? Everyday? And his team? And blakc kids age 10-15 see this everyday? its sociological as well as psychological in its advantages over oppression;

it's so much more I can type on this, but ti could happen

The NFL,NBA, And MLB are very insignificant in the grand scheme of things, Financially.

Consider this as of 2013 the NFL made 9.5 Billion in revenue.

Which sounds like a lot but would make it about the #285th ranked business in the United States(If it was applicable to be a fortune 500 company....Its not because its not publicly traded)

Keep it mind GAMESTOP would come in at #296 with a revenue of 9.4 billion and Sherwin Williams would come in Tied at #285.....

So the markets would be fine regardless of what happens to any of those sports.

 

[kp404]

Interesting.

As for Sterling and his past remarks. I'm not really looking at the past, he's finally under the hot seat and that's what matters. All that shoulda coulda woulda don't fix shyt.

Yes. 2 black owners the next decade is most def progression, just as it was when we only had 2 black baseball players. I dont think you understand how progression works. You need those 2 to have 8 tomorrow. You can't just go from 0 to 8. That's now how life works.


WIthout being said, you folks sure do like to debbie down, so how about you give a proposal on what should be done, step by step, in the coming week.

Here's where things get silent................

You've read my posts...have I ever disappeared from a conversation on solution driven methods

Again, I am not a nihilist. I believe racial capitalist oppression can be overturned because it almost did in Reconstruction (See Du Bois' Black Reconstruction). I just said it throughout the thread. if I was Lebron james, I know my net worth, my fan base, my monumental popularity: I would sit out and demand my teammates and other players to stop the playoffs and explain how it would kill the owners' money and they would be forced to remove Sterling. Regardless of their decision, I would sit out. My sitting out as Lebron James would send a shockwave through the global sphere; i would give interviews on why I did it and explain to all ethnicities that this is racial oppression and I demand for Sterling's removal or I will not play. All it takes is for one member of the vanguard to step up and others will follow. Other players will not play and once games are disrupted and television revenue and rating drop, NBA bleeds money, panic ensues, shyt gets done. Other things like community consciousness would follow too because Lebron's counterhegemonic act would be looked at as legendary and be in the history books