Gen Z democratic party leader David Hogg says white men cant get play

[Voice of Reason]

Okay, I should have listened to what was being discussed, because now I think David Hogg is incredibly misguided here. He's oversimplifying a real issue to the point of being dangerous. The idea that people are being "excommunicated" for saying the "wrong thing" ignores the reality that a lot of those "wrong things" are actually loud, unapologetic racism, sexism, homophobia, and so on. This isn't about people being canceled for minor mistakes, it's about accountability for harmful behavior. That's something people need to be realistic about if they're going to try to have that conversation.

Instead of framing this as a "vibe" issue or a problem of judgmental Democrats, people should be talking about how to hold space for growth without lowering standards. And we definitely shouldn't conflate structural political shifts, like the rightward drift of some young men, with just feeling uncomfortable in a conversation.

Besides that, we also have to be honest about the fact that white men, especially young white men, have always leaned conservative. That's not new. What's new is the panic around it, which tends to ignore that historical context and sometimes veers into blaming the left for "losing" a group it never really had.

Having said that, I do think these conversations are important, especially when it comes to young Black men. We can't afford to ignore the signs of disengagement or rightward drift. But that shouldn't mean trying to out-right the right, but by actually listening and addressing real economic and social concerns that help improve their (and everyone's) material conditions.

Democrats need to do far better than symbolic inclusion to counter the cynical appeals from conservatives, or a lot more young brehs are just going to check out completely - or worse - get pulled in by people who at least act like they see them.

shyt for brains response.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

All these arguments are stupid. At the end of the day, most people vote for who they alwyas vote for.

Dem voter turnout was very high, just lower than 2020. Trump voter turn out was high, but dropped less than the dems did.

Nah Dems lost cuz blk mens hate blk womens

 

[CM_Burns]

He might be the new GOAT CAC

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Why do you think they don't work on symbolic inclusion with some as opposed to others?

There's this strange mindset where, in supporting one group, they feel they have to sideline another. You see it across society where Black men don't get the same grace, even though we face many of the same systems of oppression. We get lumped in with - and I hate to even use the term this way - the "white patriarchy," as if our experience mirrors theirs, when it clearly doesn't.

 

[chiefdogg]

IN!

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Black feminism has destroyed some Black women's minds

Change your name to @Voice of Misogynoir

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Yeah it's crazy that people are arguing against it. It even seeped over to some black men too going by the last election cycle

The elephant in the room when it comes to those specific Black men

 

[keond]

Yeah it's crazy that people are arguing against it. It even seeped over to some black men too going by the last election cycle

Yep and I’m not even saying the perception is right or fair. I’m telling you what these cacs say out of their own mouth

 

[Kingofthereal]

They just love propping white folks up, that nikka would never get my vote

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Hogg is literally saying what every conservative figure is saying: dudes are sexually frustrated.

The difference is the right frames it in a way to paint women as intellectually inferior and unfair and men as the victims. Just like the right paints, black folks, immigrants, women, etc as the perpetrators victimizing white men.

The GOP electorally profits on brainless incel, racist rage

Bingo.

White men want puzzy but they don't want to have to level up to get it.

That's all this is.

Liberal white women are going to college in greater numbers and want to be treated as human beings. Young white boys grew up with Boomer dads that were selfish, lazy, loud, arrogant...but it worked because Boomer white women are soft and put up with all kinds of shyt.

Young white boys are running the same 1970 playbook but Millenial/Gen Z white broads ain't biting.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

He's right, and the reaction to his comments proves it.

Side bar: The problem he describes also plays a role in why young men don't want to go to college anymore. they don't want to be in mostly female spaces where theyre told that they're toxic and feel heavily scrutinized.

 

[Wargames]

Is this another post where we are suppose to feel sorry for young white men?

How many times are ya’ll young black men gonna post these white cry baby cocksuckers and say some shyt about them having a point?

When will you understand that he is arguing for spaces where white men can call you the N-Word at the same time they call women c*nts and feel no consequences?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Kamala didn't really do bad with white voters.

I will say this though. You cannot appeal to a group while constantly denigrating them. The way democrats - specifically democrat women - talk about white men is weird. Even weirder when you consider how many of them are dating, married to, or fukking white men.

White men are in an interesting state of freefall and for the first time in a long time they have no constructive distractions or avenues to get the poison/pressure/anger out. Rock is dead, metal is dead, none of them are playing instruments anymore. Instead of starting a band or going to a show, white men have found a new class of rock-like stars to worship. Podcasters, influencers, and other bullshytters. All of whom feed them a steady diet of rage bait 24/7. Don't go to college because women, don't get married because women, don't have a family because women, don't go to cities because black people...don't try. Just get mad, disengage, and keep consuming the slop until you do something stupid. There's virtually no way democrats can reach those men. They're far gone. And I have no interest in trying. But they've decided to ALSO denigrate normal white guys who aren't on that wave for daring to...want to have sex with women, sometimes say dumb/ignorant things, and not be 100% up to date on every racial or feminist twitter construct. Dudes shouldn't have to bow down and kiss your feet in order to be deemed acceptable to the cause.

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

People in hell want ice water.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

Kamala didn't really do bad with white voters.

I will say this though. You cannot appeal to a group while constantly denigrating them. The way democrats - specifically democrat women - talk about white men is weird. Even weirder when you consider how many of them are dating, married to, or fukking white men.

White men are in an interesting state of freefall and for the first time in a long time they have no constructive distractions or avenues to get the poison/pressure/anger out. Rock is dead, metal is dead, none of them are playing instruments anymore. Instead of starting a band or going to a show, white men have found a new class of rock-like stars to worship. Podcasters, influencers, and other bullshytters. All of whom feed them a steady diet of rage bait 24/7. Don't go to college because women, don't get married because women, don't have a family because women, don't go to cities because black people...don't try. Just get mad, disengage, and keep consuming the slop until you do something stupid. There's virtually no way democrats can reach those men. They're far gone. And I have no interest in trying. But they've decided to ALSO denigrate normal white guys who aren't on that wave for daring to...want to have sex with women, sometimes say dumb/ignorant things, and not be 100% up to date on every racial or feminist twitter construct. Dudes shouldn't have to bow down and kiss your feet in order to be deemed acceptable to the cause.

Some of then are even convinced that they'll finally get laid after a racewar. 2015 broke their brains (or perhaps it's because their standard of living crashed once china started eating their lunch)