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the MAGA movement is ending. It has no steam without Trump

The issue isnt MAGA, but the effort after it. The current Democratic Party ideology isnt equipped for it.

I am convinced they gonna try to make Spanberger presietn in 2028.
I guess “MAGA” will be done; I should’ve said far right instead. I think that global push will only continue even after Trump is done.
 

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I know this might seem like a foreign concept to you, but in a disastrous situation, you've got to triage and address whatever's most disastrous.

It became clear over the last week that not only was the administration willing to die on the hill of denying SNAP benefits, but they were willing to fight it in court. I legitimately think Democrats weren't expecting them to actively fight court rulings demanding payment, but that's a separate conversation.

But I guess the real question I'd ask, is how exactly was this supposed to end? Like, what was the path to getting what the Democrats wanted? Having leverage really only matters when the person you have the leverage over actually cares about the harm they could do by not respecting it. We are very clearly not in that situation.
It’s obviously easier said than done but you gotta let it roll IMO. Either path will likely lead to tons of suffering and inadequate access to health insurance, but this path we’re on now leads to Dems derision and takes the foot off the Repubs throat. With them CLEARLY being better at creating good PR, you give them a chance to ensure we have less public support the next time something like this comes up.

I do think Repubs would’ve been willing to let mass starvation and potential death occur to follow Trump’s mandate, so I don’t want to say it’s an easy decision. But I think their decision could cause more damage in the long term
 

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It is incredible 70 million people voted for a guy who had no problem letting a significant portion of them and other Americans die just so he can earn a few more millions. At least with Hitler, he was evil with the betterment of Germany as a possible side effect. Trump just doesn’t give a shyt lol.
 

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It is incredible 70 million people voted for a guy who had no problem letting a significant portion of them and other Americans die just so he can earn a few more millions. At least with Hitler, he was evil with the betterment of Germany as a possible side effect. Trump just doesn’t give a shyt lol.
Just so long as most of them were minorities, MAGAt voters will put themselves in the poor house or the hospital.


You could've left Hitler outta that tho :whoa:
 

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It’s obviously easier said than done but you gotta let it roll IMO. Either path will likely lead to tons of suffering and inadequate access to health insurance, but this path we’re on now leads to Dems derision and takes the foot off the Repubs throat. With them CLEARLY being better at creating good PR, you give them a chance to ensure we have less public support the next time something like this comes up.

I do think Repubs would’ve been willing to let mass starvation and potential death occur to follow Trump’s mandate, so I don’t want to say it’s an easy decision. But I think their decision could cause more damage in the long term

I agree that you gotta let it roll, but I completely understand someone saying they're more comfortable with letting the Republicans choose one of two poison pills in this situation instead of taking both. I imagine those that voted for the deal are betting that ultimately, the people that die due to rising premiums after the inevitable ACA vote betrayal are more effective than the at risk SNAP recipients that the Republicans obviously don't give a shyt about now.

It's an ugly situation with no real winners. :manny:
 

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If the American people haven't learned by now that Republicans dont give a fukk about anyone not in the multi-millionaire class, then they never will.

Repubs just passed a bill that cuts Medicaid and food stamps in order to cut taxes for rich people, that wasn't a fukking clue?

How many times is this electorate going to have to learn the same lesson?
while you are right, Americans also need to understand the same is true for the mainstream Dem elected leaders.

Both sides of captial.
 

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Pathetic cave but at the same time I can only think of one example where a sitting president lost a shut down fight. Which was last time Trump was president. The president always has the upper hand in this. Now do I think dems had a much better hand this time, and SHOULD have been emboldened by Jackson's actions on the SNAP payments a few days ago, and the elections last Tuesday? Yes. Holding out, anticipating SNAP payments will go out soon, and wait for Trump to get antsy. Just reading his tweets over the last week it was obvious he was searching for a solution to avoid taking blame.

Schumer has to go, Jeffries has to go. My concern is that when (not if) dems win the House next year they will take that as evidence they need to stay. fukk that...
 

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while you are right, Americans also need to understand the same is true for the mainstream Dem elected leaders.

Both sides of captial.
I think voters understood, thats why they voted republican after dems refused to pass bbb.
 

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Man IDK, sometimes I think Trump is worse.
You cannot compare America today to getting shoved in makeshift shower gas chamber, brutally murdered, then getting disposed of like an animal.

This is also like saying you think Dump 💩 is worse than slave masters and slave traders. He is a true PoS but chill
 

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Pathetic cave but at the same time I can only think of one example where a sitting president lost a shut down fight. Which was last time Trump was president. The president always has the upper hand in this. Now do I think dems had a much better hand this time, and SHOULD have been emboldened by Jackson's actions on the SNAP payments a few days ago, and the elections last Tuesday? Yes. Holding out, anticipating SNAP payments will go out soon, and wait for Trump to get antsy. Just reading his tweets over the last week it was obvious he was searching for a solution to avoid taking blame.

Schumer has to go, Jeffries has to go. My concern is that when (not if) dems win the House next year they will take that as evidence they need to stay. fukk that...
When you lose elections you should step down and retire, thats what republicans do. Schumer should have lost his job after 2022.
 

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Fresh off a victory over the pathetic dems, Trump takes his victory lap, threatening and belittling workers. Or as some would call it, Monday.

 

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So when the republicans don’t comeback to negotiate the ACA, what will the dems messaging be?
 
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