Geno Smith booed at scrimmage

[mrken12]

If Alex Smith was black he would have been out of the league by Year 4

And he was a #1 pick.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

nah

rebel does find single cut ups and extrapolates them as if they're the norm though...as if Geno's entire body of work hasn't been subpar.

He hasn't had much to work with breh. His o-line has been ass.

Imagine geno with the o-line, receivers, and running game that mark Sanchez had.

 

[NoSingleMothersB]

@mrken12 @SprinceC



Francis Ubadineke ·
Jackson State University
Sorry but Geno sucks.
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69 · 17 hrs

Tim Hurst
Don't apologize. Everyone but the Jets seem to realize that fact.
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Kyle Hughes ·
Rutgers University
Tim, you think they don't know that? We have a new GM and new coaches. They have zero attachment to Smith. Petty is the only QB on the roster who could legitimately overtake Smith, but he needs time to learn.
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George C Santos ·
University of Kentucky
Lol..he's beyond bad. smile emoticon
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Max Fequiere II ·
The University of Alabama
Dude im right there with you. I would be laughing to if i sucked that bad and still making millions.
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35 · 17 hrs




Top two of five comments are black people saying Geno sucks. SMH we never back our own.

So we're supposed to defend mediocrity? The fact of the matter is dude isn't that good.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Y'all gotta be the same poster.

What you think @NYC Rebel ?

Both follow my every word.

 

[nomoreneveragain]

So we're supposed to defend mediocrity? The fact of the matter is dude isn't that good.

The Problem is Jets fans would rather have Matt Simms as their starting QB

 

[wire28]

Geno apologists

 

[Trip]

you profess your love for football outsiders who Repeat the same thing I said about Geno. Why is it now problem?

what are we talking about here now

 

[Trip]

He hasn't had much to work with breh. His o-line has been ass.

Imagine geno with the o-line, receivers, and running game that mark Sanchez had.

receivers have stunk for sure, o-line has been league average....the sacks and fumbles are the most critical issues for me, and those are things that are predominantly on Geno. I'm judging Geno on what he's done so far, I'm not dismissing the fact there's a possibility he could get significantly better...I just think the odds are against him, judging by similar guys who have had similar first two seasons.

 

[NYC Rebel]

what are we talking about here now

You claim I only use cut ups to prove my point. you also say you are a believer of football outsiders. How come it's not a problem When they also say the same thing I say about Geno?

 

[Trip]

You claim I only use cut ups to prove my point. you also say you are a believer of football outsiders. How come it's not a problem When they also say the same thing I say about Geno?

Im not a believer of anything other than comparing similar players with similar first year statistics. There's a large enough sample to make a decent conclusion...obviously Im hoping Geno bucks the trend. When the games start I have no interest in rooting for anyone on the Jets to fail. Dismissing this as some sort of racial bias is lazy when I was just as critical of Sanchez or Pennington or whomever.

 

[KOohbt]

jets fans

 

[yseJ]

training camp news as topics of conversations

 

[NYC Rebel]

Im not a believer of anything other than comparing similar players with similar first year statistics. There's a large enough sample to make a decent conclusion...obviously Im hoping Geno bucks the trend. When the games start I have no interest in rooting for anyone on the Jets to fail. Dismissing this as some sort of racial bias is lazy when I was just as critical of Sanchez or Pennington or whomever.

Bullshyt.

Football Outsiders isnt bull by any means. Its aggregate stats.

Neither are end all be all- but they provide some good context. FO is better than PFF though.

Reb says Geno had a good second half of the season and you don't watch film

Trip: you watch cut ups.

Football outsiders says SAME THING Reb says AFTER the fact:



Trip: holds hands with @Pesci




This is what we are dealing with.

 

[Trip]

Well we have good news a bad news for Jets fans. Our projections for 2015 say the Jets this year will look a lot more like the Jets we think of them. Statistical trends and significant roster overhaul both point to the Jets reversing recent decline and once again fielding one of the best defenses in the NFL. That's the good news. But when we say the Jets are going to field a more familiar team this season we're talking about both sides of the ball. The Jets' offense is going to suck.

Last year, Smith was at or near the bottom of the league for most major passing statistics, and the Jets were at or near the bottom for all team passing metrics. Smith completed just 60% of his passes with 13 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. His DVOA of -12.5 and his DYAR of -33 both finished 30th among the 37 QB's with at least 200 pass attempts. (Vick was even worse)

So which kind of QB is Geno Smith? Bad with potential? Or just plain bad? Unfortunately two years of poor play on Smith's resume is probably enough for us to know the answer is the latter. In his first two seasons in the league, Smith has ranked 37th and 30th in DVOA, and history tells us very few QB's who have begun their careers in similar fashion are capable of rounding into something resembling a competitive NFL starter. It's been almost 25 years since any QB other than Alex Smith developed into a quality starter after beginning his career with two seasons below replacement level and that even assumes you view Smith as a quality starter. Smith improved down the stretch, but even that improvement was just one game: an improbable Week 17 performance that came out with 14.3 yards per attempt and a perfect 158.3 rating. Without that game, even Smith's improved December still resulted in a passing DVOA of -3.4%.

-Football Outsiders 2015 almanac

 

[Trip]

Bullshyt.
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what was bulshyt?