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I agree. I really like Wu Block, and while it may have stronger tracks, its not as consistent as this effort. This effort is consistent all the way through, but thats because you have one producer...like in the old school days. Thats one of my problems with hip hop today. Rappers have to get a beat from 10 different producers to do an album and the shyt just dont flow properly. This is why probably my most heavily rotated album is Trophies. There are pros and cons. Of course with an album like Trophies it can run together and things can get monotonous. On this album, monotony works because its a story.

I am pissin in my pants waitin on the Brown Tape version.

sn: I have Venice Dawn and Something About April albums and while I liked the instrumentation...I wasnt digging it that much with singing. I thought he would sound much better underneath some hip hop. I think I was right.


:heh: I laugh everytime I see your avi.

Anyways...this album is supposed to be listened to like a audio novel. A nice, short crime novela. It's supposed to flow effortlessly and it worked out great. Ghost, the Wu guests and Venice Dawn did an excellent job. This is what a concept album is supposed to sound like. Concept albums aren't really done in hip hop anymore but this one was pulled off great. They chose the right MC for this project. :heh: at Ghost giving us "struggle bars" That's some 'I never even really listened to the rhymes and I don't even know the concept of the album' type shyt.

Also, I agree. Nowadays EVERY fukking album has like 20 tracks and each track is done by a different producer. I believe that's one of the MAIN reasons the last 10 years has not had as many classic albums as the 10 years previous.
 

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I think it's intentionally short. It's a nice, short, but very gratifying, crime/romance story. It's really a side project for Ghost. He did it as a favor for RZA. His next album, Supreme Clientele 2, is the album that he's been working laboriously on for almost 3 years. That Ghost spazzing, Wu shyt. That album is probably what the dumb, uniformed cats thought they was gonna get with 12 Reasons to Die. I don't think the cats that are shytting on this album know what the fukk it's supposed to be :lolbron:
 

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Wrong. I like Wu Block. It's a dope album. It ain't better than this album. Post the Ghostface "struggle bars" you are referring to. Stop the bullshyt.


He's saying shyt that's mad obvious. Like I can guess his bars. I guessed 'bone gristle'. I knew he was gonna say it. On the fast songs he's still sounding cool. The slow joints he's off beat and predictable. And Ghostface is my favorite rapper of all time aside from kris.
 

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And Billy, I see you saying "it's supposed to be this, it's supposed to be that".....it's supposed to SOUND GOOD. So far IMO its sounds just okay.


Stop making excuses for a decent side project. People were screaming this was gonna be a classic, it clearly is not and now cops are being plead. And I agree about SC2. That's the project where he better show up.
 

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i remember now, when do u return?
Ask your relative/friends to send you a copy..

i actually ordered the deluxe set(or whatever it's called)
with the brown tape, cd copy, digital download, and 45

but i wanted to hear it now
and im worried that when the digital download is avail - i wont be able to dl it

and i had the cd and 45 sent to my parent's crib not here
 

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He's saying shyt that's mad obvious. Like I can guess his bars. I guessed 'bone gristle'. I knew he was gonna say it. On the fast songs he's still sounding cool. The slow joints he's off beat and predictable. And Ghostface is my favorite rapper of all time aside from kris.

You don't know what a struggle bar is. Go take a listen to Lil Wayne's new album. Half that album is struggle bars. Ghost is telling a story. ANd he told it with surgical precision. Again...post the bars you believe are "struggle bars". Each line serves it's purpose.

And Billy, I see you saying "it's supposed to be this, it's supposed to be that".....it's supposed to SOUND GOOD. So far IMO its sounds just okay.


Stop making excuses for a decent side project. People were screaming this was gonna be a classic, it clearly is not and now cops are being plead. And I agree about SC2. That's the project where he better show up.


It does SOUND GOOD. Most the people who listened to it, believe it SOUNDS GOOD. You say it just sounds okay but you just called it corny:

This is kinda corny honestly.

Makes me believe that you were expecting something totally different. You should have been reading the interviews that came prior to this album and you would've known exactly what was coming. This wasn't supposed to be Ironman.
 

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all that shyt is irrelevant. this album is aiight at best. Ghost is off beat. end of story. when your job is to rap you should at the very least be on beat. Ghost is old and obviously not inspired anymore. and that's fine. i think he's truly on a Islamic mission now and just rapping to get checks.
 
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