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Why would someone ghostwrite for Nas? The purpose of ghostwriting is to make money. Nas albums dont sell. Only a dummy would believe dat.Ghostwrute for Ross or one of them YM n1ggaz. I'm pretty sure Nas wrote all his sh1t
 

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Why would someone ghostwrite for Nas? The purpose of ghostwriting is to make money. Nas albums dont sell. Only a dummy would believe dat.Ghostwrute for Ross or one of them YM n1ggaz. I'm pretty sure Nas wrote all his sh1t

No it isn't. You also ghostwrite to build up connects and "pay dues." There are tons of ghost producers who don't make money up until it was "their turn" to get the promo as the next big thing. It's assembly level. In rap you don't see it as much as far as writing full on songs but tons of weed carrier level dudes act as editors or muses for tons of rappers.
 

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I dont see the problem with it. If u have a nikka with the voice and personality, why not pen some bars for him. Most of rap is pretty fukking wack and fake now anyway, and more importantly rap is the only music genre where artists are usually the ones writing their songs. You look at R&B, rock, etc lot of folks have writers right in the credits.

The prob with rap is that even though its so obviously fake, people want to swear up and down that everything in it is real, and ghostwriting takes away from that. It's stupid
 

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Rap built its art form on lyrics. The main thing about rap is being able to come up with great rhymes. That's what made rap what it is. Pop music, RnB had other factors into like charisma, voice, range. You can have someone who couldn't sing a lick but could write Whitney Houston a chart topping ballad. Because not everyone could sing. But everyone can write. You understand? When hip hop first started, it was about who was the best rapper. Who had the best lyrics. Now the game is changed to where the best writers can pen chart toppers for people like diddy or Dre who weren't really rappers, just producers. To me, if you use a ghost writer, no way should you consider yourself top rapper in any thing.
 

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Rap built its art form on lyrics. The main thing about rap is being able to come up with great rhymes. That's what made rap what it is. Pop music, RnB had other factors into like charisma, voice, range. You can have someone who couldn't sing a lick but could write Whitney Houston a chart topping ballad. Because not everyone could sing. But everyone can write. You understand? When hip hop first started, it was about who was the best rapper. Who had the best lyrics. Now the game is changed to where the best writers can pen chart toppers for people like diddy or Dre who weren't really rappers, just producers. To me, if you use a ghost writer, no way should you consider yourself top rapper in any thing.

No. Rap was built on moving and rocking the crowd. Lyricism came much later.
 

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No it isn't. You also ghostwrite to build up connects and "pay dues." There are tons of ghost producers who don't make money up until it was "their turn" to get the promo as the next big thing. It's assembly level. In rap you don't see it as much as far as writing full on songs but tons of weed carrier level dudes act as editors or muses for tons of rappers.
And the Nas shyt is what I came in to address specifically...them nikkas in the video is stupid as fukk..actin like Untitled was somethin out of Nas' realm when he's been on that type of steez since the IWW era...shyt..his single was If I Ruled The World..
 

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No it isn't. You also ghostwrite to build up connects and "pay dues." There are tons of ghost producers who don't make money up until it was "their turn" to get the promo as the next big thing. It's assembly level. In rap you don't see it as much as far as writing full on songs but tons of weed carrier level dudes act as editors or muses for tons of rappers.

My point is, nobody is ghostwriting for Nas. Unless its a chorus or some sh1t.
 

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Jay Electronica wrote Queens Get the Money and Proclamation (****** Hatred)
 

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Listen to Act I: Eternal Sunshine (The Pledge)

too many textbook Jay Elec cadences on those Untitled tracks to not be at least co-written by him
Again...No...he didn't. Speculatory bullshyt. Until you provide valid proof you're just another Dream Hampton fakkit posting shyt you know nothing about.
 

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Even if he did, Nas was throwing Jay Elect a bone by putting him on in the industry. A Nas cosign went a long way. On top of that, Queens Get The Money ain't even close to Nas' best in his catalogue. I hope you're not implying he couldn't write something rivaling it?
 

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Again...No...he didn't. Speculatory bullshyt. Until you provide valid proof you're just another Dream Hampton fakkit posting shyt you know nothing about.
He even sounds like Jay Elec on those tracks as far as vocal inflections

Face it, he was spitting to a Jay Elec reference
 
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