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[Cynic]

But AI will only get better. A car from 1970 is not better than a car from 2025. Some things get better over time...IT industry is cooked. Especially software folks.

If it's based on probabilistic LLMs then this will only get worse

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[David_TheMan]

Once they finish feeding A.I. all of the work you nikkas have done over the years, nobody's job is going to be safe

A.I. will take 1/2 second to pull up and answer when they hook it up to quantum computers.

It doesn't understand what it pulls up, its a computer, it will just have access to a lot of data to try to make pattern analysis and try to connect to what it thinks the prompt is requesting.

The funny part is even if it is correct in pulling something up, doesn't mean it will work for what its actually being pulled up for.

Not to mention language constantly drifts, that means the LLM will have to consistantly be changed, and then you will get into the issue using llms where you have words that are the same but entirely different meanings, and they will have to account for that, the programmers / developers, as well on the prompt side.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

The IT field got flooded because too many people who had no business being in IT got in for the money.

So the supply is there…. People act like big tech just started 6 years ago…. What caused the shortage in the American supply?

 

[Chrishaune]

It doesn't understand what it pulls up, its a computer, it will just have access to a lot of data to try to make pattern analysis and try to connect to what it thinks the prompt is requesting.

The funny part is even if it is correct in pulling something up, doesn't mean it will work for what its actually being pulled up for.

Not to mention language constantly drifts, that means the LLM will have to consistantly be changed, and then you will get into the issue using llms where you have words that are the same but entirely different meanings, and they will have to account for that, the programmers / developers, as well on the prompt side.

It's programmed over decades to pull answers.

Google A.I. pulls answers all the time from the data bank of the Internet.

It's not hard. And also people fail to realize what quantum computing is going to do to the speed that A.I. can work.

Language barrier will be non existent when they unleash A.I. with quantum computing fully. Real time translation speaking to someone face to face.

 

[David_TheMan]

It's programmed over decades to pull answers.

Google A.I. pulls answers all the time from the data bank of the Internet.

It's not hard. And also people fail to realize what quantum computing is going to do to the speed that A.I. can work.

Yeah it pulls it and its still wrong (i hate saying hallucinates, its a language trick to promote the myth that AI is thinking).
Having all the data to pull from doesn't mean it pulls it correctly, which is why google pays people to filter and train the AI constantly.
It is incredibly hard, quantum computing won't change the fact that computers still don't think, even a quantum computer will have to be trained how to process.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

, so you have a fundamental amount of ignorance regarding computers then.
I think some of you need to put the comics and movies down and pick up actual academic papers.
Saying technology moves quick , look at camera phones, as if that will ever give computers the ability to think is wrong, factually wrong.
Its like thinking that a hydralic press will one day be able to run the whole factory.
That isn't how this work, people have to be involved if a choice is made, even if it is feeding them what to do, if you give a computer a choice it will randomly or psuedo randomly because computers cant really perform true random selection, of the options and thats only if you program the computer to recognize it is being given an option.

Bro I have a Degree in Electrical Engineering and I work in defense. I just finished a seminar on the future integration of AI and use within the DoD sector. I think you’re the one that doesn’t understand. Technology moves at an exponential rate. This is proven. This is called Moore’s Law

We had computers back in 80s now look at type of computers we have now and they are more pocket size. That’s not even talking about the other advancements of modern tech like satellite and radar theory (which I work on)

 

[David_TheMan]

Bro I have a Degree in EE and I work in defense. I think you’re the one that doesn’t understand. Technology moves at an exponential rate. This is proven. This is called Moore’s Law

We had computers back in 80s now look at type of computers we have now and they are more pocket size. That’s not even talking about the other advancements of modern tech like satellite and radar theory (which I work on)

Funny I work in IT, I work with the DoD.
Posting a graph that demonstrates Moore's law, in a conversation about what AI has the ability to do, shows me you have a serious lack of understanding of what is going on or AI as a technology.
Don't let salesmen and ignorant management fool you on what AI and ML are and its strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Chrishaune]

Yeah it pulls it and its still wrong (i hate saying hallucinates, its a language trick to promote the myth that AI is thinking).
Having all the data to pull from doesn't mean it pulls it correctly, which is why google pays people to filter and train the AI constantly.
It is incredibly hard, quantum computing won't change the fact that computers still don't think, even a quantum computer will have to be trained how to process.

That's part of what is going on right now. They are training it. With the help of new data centers over the next few years it will be much more streamlined than it already is.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Funny I work in IT, I work with the DoD.
Posting a graph that demonstrates Moore's law, in a conversation about what AI has the ability to do, shows me you have a serious lack of understanding of what is going on or AI as a technology.
Don't let salesmen and ignorant management fool you on what AI and ML are and its strengths and weaknesses.

You asked about exponential growth maybe your idea of what growth looks like between you and I differ. Again you work in IT I work on hardware; pcbs and radars so maybe our perspective is skewed towards our bias. But to say technology doesn’t move at the speed it does is crazy. Was any of this remotely possible 100 yrs ago? 70 yrs ago we were using tube tech now we’re using micro-ICs

 

[MikelArteta]

It's programmed over decades to pull answers.

Google A.I. pulls answers all the time from the data bank of the Internet.

It's not hard. And also people fail to realize what quantum computing is going to do to the speed that A.I. can work.

Language barrier will be non existent when they unleash A.I. with quantum computing fully. Real time translation speaking to someone face to face.

But the LORD came down to look at the city and the tower the people were building. 6“Look!” he said. “The people are united, and they all speak the same language. After this, nothing they set out to do will be impossible for them!

 

[MikelArteta]

You asked about exponential growth maybe your idea of what growth looks like between you and I differ. Again you work in IT I work on hardware; pcbs and radars so maybe our perspective is skewed towards our bias. But to say technology doesn’t move at the speed it does is crazy. Was any of this remotely possible 100 yrs ago? 70 yrs ago we were using tube tech now we’re using micro-ICs

Yeah technology moves crazy fast. Look at a cell phone ten years ago compared to a z fold 7

 

[tgu]

But accountingn software has existed for decades and cpa(s) are still being minted and are in high demand.

I think their advantage is that they have a licensed profession that is protected by law. It's the same reason an AI lawyer or AI doctor or AI civil engineer or AI actuary will never be a thing despite most these professions being knowledge based and easily automated (with the exception surgery+gynecology in medicine which is manual labor) . The value of these knowledge positions is in the licensure, and they have a lot of lobbying groups advocating for their interests as a licensed group.

Where computer science failed,(and I've talked about this with @IIVI before), we never created a formal domestic licensure system that put up a moat to both outsourcing and automated solutions. Instead, we made it easier and easier for both computer scientists and computer engineers to be replaced because we allowed ABET , our accreditation body to start certifying people in different countries which effectively encouraged outsourcing. These generic office jobs and middle management roles are in the same boat too.


For example , there is no such thing a certified public computer scientist. We don't have a governing board with regular exams like accounting, law, medicine, nursing, actuarial sciences ,etc have. Ironically, we are one of those industries that really need it when you consider that everything from the airplanes in the sky, to medical devices like pacemakers, to cars on the road is dependent on us not making mistakes.

I agree with the overall thought behind this post, just fyi for accountants, they’ve allowed CPA’s to be minted in other countries which depresses their wages as well

 

[David_TheMan]

That's part of what is going on right now. They are training it. With the help of new data centers over the next few years it will be much more streamlined than it already is.

there is no training it and its done, its constantly changing.
Results are constantly filtered and refined, language constantly has to be updated, its a continious process that will never be perfect because people ultimately have to confirm if the processes and connections being made are accurate.

You asked about exponential growth maybe your idea of what growth looks like between you and I differ. Again you work in IT I work on hardware; pcbs and radars so maybe our perspective is skewed towards our bias. But to say technology doesn’t move at the speed it does is crazy. Was any of this remotely possible 100 yrs ago? 70 yrs ago we were using tube tech now we’re using micro-ICs

No I literally did not ask about expoential growth.
You can work on hardware, pcbs, and radars, nothing is changed.
I never said technology doesn't move at speed.
You literally can't read or didn't read and made up a strawman.

 

[MikelArteta]

there is no training it and its done, its constantly changing.
Results are constantly filtered and refined, language constantly has to be updated, its a continious process that will never be perfect because people ultimately have to confirm if the processes and connections being made are accurate.


No I literally did not ask about expoential growth.
You can work on hardware, pcbs, and radars, nothing is changed.
I never said technology doesn't move at speed.
You literally can't read or didn't read and made up a strawman.

Breh its the infancy. Iphone is not even 20 years and look at the first iphone compared to the most recent. Even a used old 50 dollar android phone made 5 years ago is better tahn the og iphone.

Everything has gotten better in such a short span

 

[Chrishaune]

there is no training it and its done, its constantly changing.
Results are constantly filtered and refined, language constantly has to be updated, its a continious process that will never be perfect because people ultimately have to confirm if the processes and connections being made are accurate.


No I literally did not ask about expoential growth.
You can work on hardware, pcbs, and radars, nothing is changed.
I never said technology doesn't move at speed.
You literally can't read or didn't read and made up a strawman.

There's a point they have planned to get to. Beyond that it's anybody's guess.

This is from the plans that the International bankers and tech elite have put out. Digital currency and the security that they want to see depends on having A I. ready to go at the level they need it. All of this smart hardware they have been building also.

They are not working on all of this for no reason.
The World Economic Forum has been telling us about this for a while.