Growing Everything But The Payroll: The Official 2025 New York Yankees Season Thread

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The bold is hilarious, coming from the same guy that was okay not spending for Aaron fukking Judge. I'm not trying to hear this at all

This is why the Dominguez discourse is funny: Y'all are being dishonest. You said he should be getting “reps” because Cole and that other guy aren’t around, but you was ready to throw him out there in last year’s playoffs, at a position that you’re now telling us is not his “natural” position. Instead of seeing what's transpiring, ya get to gaslighting and excuse-making, very much like Cashman does with Volpe. Two peas of the same pod.

I’m tired of coddling these mid ass prospects. It took Roman Anthony 18 games to get acclimated to the majors. Tyler Soderstrom, with no innings of experience in the outfield at any level , becomes a GG finalist in the position that this so-called generational talent needs multiple years of “reps” for? Hilarious

:laugh: I was ok with not spending for Judge because they're not gonna win with him doing what they're doing, not because I wanna save Hal money.

As for the Yankees, they have proven that they don't care about playing guys in their natural positions. Ex-players have been saying this. We've seen them pull this crap even with Jazz and for who? For washed ass DJ. They wanna get younger and more athletic and the fans want a "real leadoff hitter" yet anytime someone gets on base in front of Judge, they never want them to run. That's why with Grisham they think they've even solved the leadoff spot. The Yankees don't practice what they preach.
A lot of like the sound of developing players, but yall ain’t true believers.

Because if that’s the case, let’s give Volpe some grace, he played with a torn shoulder, he’s a GG winner and showed he could perform in the playoffs. Let’s bring up Vivas once again. Or do we pick and choose?
We want them to develop players for 2 reasons:

1. They're not gonna boost their payrolls to the levels we want them to.

2. Cashman having an inability and unwillingness to go that route while also not wanting to spend a premium for the upgrade is grounds for termination alone. So he doesn't wanna spend, doesn't wanna develop, so he takes the half measure of spending a little more to still wish on a star. And then he wonders why it always craps out on him.
 

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Cashman be shopping at Dollar General too cotdamn much.
It’s funny that the A’s came up in here because that’s exactly what Cashman always does. He’s spent the 15 years since Steinbrenner died trying to moneyball his way to a title but failed to notice that the A’s never even reached the ALCS that way because you still need to spend.

:laugh: I was ok with not spending for Judge because they're not gonna win with him doing what they're doing, not because I wanna save Hal money.

As for the Yankees, they have proven that they don't care about playing guys in their natural positions. Ex-players have been saying this. We've seen them pull this crap even with Jazz and for who? For washed ass DJ. They wanna get younger and more athletic and the fans want a "real leadoff hitter" yet anytime someone gets on base in front of Judge, they never want them to run. That's why with Grisham they think they've even solved the leadoff spot. The Yankees don't practice what they preach.

We want them to develop players for 2 reasons:

1. They're not gonna boost their payrolls to the levels we want them to.

2. Cashman having an inability and unwillingness to go that route while also not wanting to spend a premium for the upgrade is grounds for termination alone. So he doesn't wanna spend, doesn't wanna develop, so he takes the half measure of spending a little more to still wish on a star. And then he wonders why it always craps out on him.
I can’t overemphasize the leadoff issue or point 2 enough. Not getting a pair of table setter types for the 1-2 spots makes Judge easy to pitch around (especially when he bats 2nd). Refusal to play young guys or pay for stars automatically puts the team with a low ceiling that they’ll have to address shortly so the year is almost a waste out the gate and the bandaid fixes that come with bad contracts are always used as an excuse to not fix it entirely. Look at any given year since 2019 and how much money is being wasted on mediocre players on short to medium length contracts.

2019: CC ($8 million), Hicks ($10 million), Ottavino ($8 million), Britton ($13 million), Happ ($17 million)


2022: DJ ($16-18 million), Rizzo ($18 million), Hicks ($10 million), Gallo ($10 million), Chapman (It’s more their fault he fell apart but $17 million is too much for a closer), Britton ($13 million), IKF ($6 million), Donaldson ($25 million)


2024: DJ ($18 million), Stroman $16 million), Verdugo (whatever he was being paid was too much), Rizzo ($18 million), Grisham ($6 million), lasagna ($3 million), Hicks ($10 million)

2025: Rizzo ($6 million), DJ ($16 million), Hicks ($10 million), Stroman ($14 million), Goldschmidt ($12 million for a .650 ops after the break), lasagna ($3 million)


That’s usually $50 million being set on fire any given year and in 2022 it was basically $120 million so anywhere from 22-45% of the payroll is essentially dead money. Then the same GM won’t play the young guys in favor of said stiffs everyone knows won’t be around for more than 2-3 seasons max? I don’t think we’re being unreasonable here.
 

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Does any owner have LESS self-awareness than this bozo?

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This guy is a fukking putz :mjlol:


If Hal Steinbrenner wants people to believe the Yankees aren't profitable....THE YANKEES!!!...then what does he think about all the other teams?

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Hal always seems like a miserable person who is drowning in debt.
This is why I say he does more damage to his own team than any other owner. This is the very antithesis of what the Yankees sell themselves as but it’s all he ever talks about. It gets even worse when he won’t consider canning his GM who torches $50-110 million every year on horrible or injured players and can’t develop his own guys. You don’t get to cry about payroll when owning the Yankees and especially now when they’ve gone 16 years straight without a title and just once in the last 25 years. Either do what’s necessary or sell the fukking team :camby:
 
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This is why I say he doesn’t look more damage to his own team than any other owner. This is the very antithesis of what the Yankees sell themselves as but it’s all he ever talks about. It gets even worse when he won’t consider canning his GM who torches $50-110 million every year on horrible or injured players and can’t develop his own guys. You don’t get to cry about payroll when owning the Yankees and especially now when they’ve gone 16 years straight without a title and just once in the last 25 years. Either do what’s necessary or sell the fukking team :camby:
100%
If Hal is whining that the Yankees aren’t profitable, then get out of this business.

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