For the 1,000th time, stop quoting me. Stop DM’ng me. I don’t want to talk to you. Your opinion will never matter to me (call me a cac some more!). I will never say anything to you besides “leave me alone”.
Find a life you fukking weirdo.
He didn't fukk his wife. He fukked his daughter's mother...when him and her weren't together as a couple. And they were never married. Calculated inaccuracy in Jay's account just to clown Nas. And regardless of how weak you may think Nas' work was at that time he still was selling records heavy. He had two albums go platinum in 1999 and both debuted on the charts very high. So Jay saying Nas went from "Top 10 to not mentioned at all" is a God damn lie.
Also, Jay clowning Nas for making Oochie Wally is the biggest fukking joke in the Takeover track since Jay had made several corny ass trying to crossover, sellout club tracks up to that point. Remember "I Know What Girls Like", "Sunshine", "Things That You Do" or "Snoopy Track" ?
Oochie Wally was miles better than all of those...let's be real
That song still plays on radio and clubs and new artists still sample it and try to redo it.
And the adolescent namecalling? Why do Jay stans conveniently forget Jay calling Nas a faq, trash, and a lame in Takeover. "Escos trash"..."faq model"..."you a lame"....stop it. Jay was doing the same childish namecalling as Nas, but he actually initiated it. Why is it desperate and "grade school stuff" when Nas does it but confident and truth telling when Jay does it? Again...stop it.
When Nas said "gunned up and clapped quick" he couldn't have been more accurate. Look what happened in the aftermath of Ether:
- Jay called up the biggest hip hop radio station in the country and was weeping on air.
- Bleek and Dame both admitted that when Ether dropped it was one of the worst days of the record labels history.
- Jay made a whole fukking corny ass album basically crying that he lost to Nas.
"Gunned up and clapped quick" couldn't be more accurate. That's exactly what Nas did to Jay and the Roc. The word Ether is now used to describe bodying an opponent now. Everywhere. Not only in Hip Hop music.
"I don't kill soloist, I only kill squads"
I think the gist of Takeover was basically true, Jay-Z was running this rap shyt
Nas track was full of (more than Jay's) namecalling and inside stuff that I can't verify and don't care about. No lying just my feeling.
Somebody should do a whole documentary on this beef and the 2 records and have Nas and Jay break down all the disses, debunk them etc.
Exactly how I feel. In the moment I thought NaS snatched Jay’s soul with Ether. Really wasn’t trying to listen to anyone who thought otherwise.
Listening now though? Takeover is the better diss. NaS was talking shyt. Jay was talking facts (even though I disagree with IWW being “enhhhhh”), and broke him the fukk down.
IMO, part of the reason Ether was so monstrous upon release is in large part due to where Takeover left NaS career-wise, prior to his response. That joint would’ve ended a lot of careers, and it’s a credit to Esco that he came back and actually won the battle.
But yeah, Ether ain’t fukking with Takeover. Not sure why people are acting like it’s blasphemous to say as much, but that’s the fukking coli for you.
Funny thing is Oochie Wally isnt even Nas’ song. It’s a Bravehearts song he’s featured on. The original album version dont even have Nas on it.He didn't fukk his wife. He fukked his daughter's mother...when him and her weren't together as a couple. And they were never married. Calculated inaccuracy in Jay's account just to clown Nas. And regardless of how weak you may think Nas' work was at that time he still was selling records heavy. He had two albums go platinum in 1999 and both debuted on the charts very high. So Jay saying Nas went from "Top 10 to not mentioned at all" is a God damn lie.
Also, Jay clowning Nas for making Oochie Wally is the biggest fukking joke in the Takeover track since Jay had made several corny ass trying to crossover, sellout club tracks up to that point. Remember "I Know What Girls Like", "Sunshine", "Things That You Do" or "Snoopy Track" ?
Oochie Wally was miles better than all of those...let's be real
That song still plays on radio and clubs and new artists still sample it and try to redo it.
And the adolescent namecalling? Why do Jay stans conveniently forget Jay calling Nas a faq, trash, and a lame in Takeover. "Escos trash"..."faq model"..."you a lame"....stop it. Jay was doing the same childish namecalling as Nas, but he actually initiated it. Why is it desperate and "grade school stuff" when Nas does it but confident and truth telling when Jay does it? Again...stop it.
When Nas said "gunned up and clapped quick" he couldn't have been more accurate. Look what happened in the aftermath of Ether:
- Jay called up the biggest hip hop radio station in the country and was weeping on air.
- Bleek and Dame both admitted that when Ether dropped it was one of the worst days of the record labels history.
- Jay made a whole fukking corny ass album basically crying that he lost to Nas.
"Gunned up and clapped quick" couldn't be more accurate. That's exactly what Nas did to Jay and the Roc. The word Ether is now used to describe bodying an opponent now. Everywhere. Not only in Hip Hop music.
"I don't kill soloist, I only kill squads"
“Youse the faq model for Karl Kani ads, went from Nasty Nas to Esco’s trash” indisputable fact
