Has Jim Jones Done More For Rap Than Pusha (Influence, Impact, Etc)?

[GetRichOrDieTryin]

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[Fanservice]

What did Jim jones do for rap outside of giving us mid verses on Diplomatic Immunity?

 

[Iceson Beckford]

Of course he has

He just isn’t the better rapper

 

[Iverson_64]

Eh...Jimmy influenced fashion, slang, and memes more than music.

Pusha is pretty derivative though given the lane he's in despite how great of an emcee he is.

If we're strictly talking impact on rap music, I'd say neither particularly influenced the game.

But Jim Jones did help pioneer some fashion trends associated with Dipset and had the whole country shouting "Ballin!" for a year. If you consider that "influencing rap" then I guess the answer is Jim Jones.

 

[McSpacey]

Yes. I don’t even think Pusha is that much better of a rapper than Jim is. I just think Pusha’s career has been curated better than most due to his affiliations. Without the Pharell and Kanye production and connections Push is Benny the Butcher status. For example just being able to premier a diss record at a Louie Vuitton show in Paris is next level. Push didn’t obtain that opportunity on his own merit tho, he was afforded that opportunity due to his affiliation with Pharell. No knock it just is what it is.

 

[Ahadi]

Yes. I don’t even think Pusha is that much better of a rapper than Jim is. I just think Pusha’s career has been curated better than most due to his affiliations. Without the Pharell and Kanye production and connections Push is Benny the Butcher status. For example just being able to premier a diss record at a Louie Vuitton show in Paris is next level. Push didn’t obtain that opportunity on his own merit tho, he was afforded that opportunity due to his affiliation with Pharell. No knock it just is what it is.

& that’s all folks.

 

[DrexlersFade]

Who cares it's time for them to spar Dipset stans trying to salvage any win they can because after The Lox debacle they feel really bad about themselves being fukking grown men stans.

So y'all looking for any validation.

 

[Chris Cool]

Yes. I don’t even think Pusha is that much better of a rapper than Jim is. I just think Pusha’s career has been curated better than most due to his affiliations. Without the Pharell and Kanye production and connections Push is Benny the Butcher status. For example just being able to premier a diss record at a Louie Vuitton show in Paris is next level. Push didn’t obtain that opportunity on his own merit tho, he was afforded that opportunity due to his affiliation with Pharell. No knock it just is what it is.

Like Jim is anything without his cam'ron affiliation.

 

[Pop123]

This is a good example of why Impact is overrated a lot of times. Jim Jones, with the Blood wave and the tight clothes/rocker wave and just Dipset as a whole definitely had more impact and influence than Pusha ever had or has now. Outside of the Drake ether Pusha never really shook ish like that

But Pusha is like 10x better than him as a talent and has a stronger discography and much more respectable resume/career .

So how do you rank them? Keeping in mind, people put so much stock in impact and influence and so little in actual skills and things like that

 

[Diyhai]

Like Jim is anything without his cam'ron affiliation.

forreal
And to say Pusha isn't a way better rapper is funny
I doubt Jim even writes his shyt

 

[MaxBundles]

Yes. I don’t even think Pusha is that much better of a rapper than Jim is. I just think Pusha’s career has been curated better than most due to his affiliations. Without the Pharell and Kanye production and connections Push is Benny the Butcher status. For example just being able to premier a diss record at a Louie Vuitton show in Paris is next level. Push didn’t obtain that opportunity on his own merit tho, he was afforded that opportunity due to his affiliation with Pharell. No knock it just is what it is.

End thread
Nothing more needs to be said

 

[Uchiha God]

Probably - in terms of pop culture indicators.

Pusha is a much better rapper and saying otherwise is being delusional.

And it's comical to speak on Pusha's affiliations driving his career seeing as Jim Jones came to be as a weed carrier for Cam'ron

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

First he did the chrome hearts, than he did the BB’s….first nikka to come through in true religion

FACTS

 

[Brandsdale]

Yes. I don’t even think Pusha is that much better of a rapper than Jim is. I just think Pusha’s career has been curated better than most due to his affiliations. Without the Pharell and Kanye production and connections Push is Benny the Butcher status. For example just being able to premier a diss record at a Louie Vuitton show in Paris is next level. Push didn’t obtain that opportunity on his own merit tho, he was afforded that opportunity due to his affiliation with Pharell. No knock it just is what it is.

what he said ^^

 

[No Hook]

No

Rappers will ask for a Pusha T verse before they will ask for Jim Jones verse back then and currently. He never had do reality shows for a check and he was always was about rapping from the beginning. Coke raps aside. Yes he has benefited some from Pharell but they are legit friends outside of music. Kanye gave Pusha life but he's not with Kanye anymore and he's still a more relevant music wise than Jim is

Outside of rap, I will say Jim is probably more respected as he stood front line for Cam for any and everything