HAS To Be Done!?

Who Gets The Ax?

  • Denzel

  • Eddie

  • Morgan

  • Will

  • Sam

  • Laurence


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tuckgod

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Morgan freeman

Sure he has more classics than will Smith but I've watched Will Smiths movies multiple times
So the net joy and entertainment brought into my life is lowest with Morgan freeman since I've watch most of his movies only once
Rules is the rules breh

You giving up all those classics for Fresh Prince and Bad Boys?
 

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Now that I think about it, Morgan Freeman might technically be the most bushable, but knowing that would mean we don't get the fukkery of that Hard Rain, the gifs of him not giving a fukk in Shawshank Redemption, or even just the "Shoot THIS motherfukker," line from Wanted might make him bulletproof for me. :patrice:

I think this thread has educated me that Morgan Freeman might really just be a really good bad movie actor.
 

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Sam. I don't know any movie that he played in that is a much watch for me except cameos and bit roles in "Juice" & "Coming To America"
 

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i mentioned seven and the sixth sense. movies that typically don't hit the same once you know the mystery or riddles they revolve around.
basically the m knight template to film making, sixth sense falls in that category despite him not being involved with it. it uses the same template.
Departed has twists, but its far more of a character study and traditional mafia film

Seven isn't a character study? The entire movie is more about Somerset and his internal struggle as a detective than it is a legit mystery, I'd argue it's not a mystery at all and more of a thriller. The killer gives himself up, Gwenyth Paltrow isn't missing the entire movie and the twist is the box scene. Seven and sixth sense are not comparable, Shyamalan movies have a huge lead up to a 'gotcha' at the end, you said 'I already know what's in the box' as if that's as important to the movie as any twist in a Shyamalan movie. The Departed is anything but a traditional mob film, plus it was just an example, I also said 12 angry men.
So, Beverly Hills Cop, Harlem Nights, 48 Hours, Trading Places, Boomerang, Delirious, and Raw, aren't classic or important?

Beverly Hills Cop and Coming To America could be considered classics, but they're just fun movies, they didn't do anything different or have great performances, they're essentially like 80's versions of 21 Jump Street (2012). Culturally relevant, but that's it.
 
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Anyone saying Morgan Freeman…

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Pour jelly on yourself.

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Glory
Lean On Me
Shawshank Redemption
Oblivion
The Nolan Batman Trilogy

:damn:

Are y’all crazy?








Will Smith has a few, but not on that level, so he’s out.

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The Unforgiven. I forgot that he was also in Amistad.

Actually Morgan Freeman's depictions have very quietly demonstrated how significant African Americans were in American history. He played everything from a Black freed slave abolitionist, to a Black soldier during the Civil War to a Black cowboy. Those were very common people to see during their eras, but that have been completely written out of American history and Hollywood's bullshyt depictions of American history. Get Will Smith's soft bum ass out of there.
 
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Seven isn't a character study? The entire movie is more about Somerset and his internal struggle as a detective than it is a legit mystery, I'd argue it's not a mystery at all and more of a thriller. The killer gives himself up, it's not like Gwenyth Paltrow is missing the entire movie and the twist is the box scene. Seven and sixth sense are not comparable, it's not a huge lead up to a 'gotcha' at the end, you said 'I already know what's in the box' as if that's as important to the movie as any twist in a Shyamalan movie. The Departed is anything but a traditional mob film, plus it was just an example, I also said 12 angry men.


Beverly Hills Cop and Coming To America could be considered classics, but they're just fun movies, they didn't do anything different or have great performances, they're essentially like 80's versions of 21 Jump Street (2012). Culturally relevant, but that's it.

It seems like maybe comedy isn't your thing. Saying Coming to America and Beverly Hills Cop don't have great performances is crazy. Beverly Hills Cop essentially modernized the role of the wiseass protagonist in comedies/action comedies. Coming to America is written so that the main character is both a classic example and parody of the naive fish out of water archetype.

Even then, a movie doesn't necessarily need to do something different or have a game changing performance in order to be a classic or important.
 

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I've never seen any of those
I'm not a huge Tarantino guy, but Pulp Fiction especially is a fun watch.

It seems like maybe comedy isn't your thing. Saying Coming to America and Beverly Hills Cop don't have great performances is crazy. Beverly Hills Cop essentially modernized the role of the wiseass protagonist in comedies/action comedies. Coming to America is written so that the main character is both a classic example and parody of the naive fish out of water archetype.

Even then, a movie doesn't necessarily need to do something different or have a game changing performance in order to be a classic or important.
It should right? Otherwise, any popular, critically acclaimed movie could be considered a classic. To me, 'important/classic' should mean extremely culturally relevant or so significant that if it never existed, it would change how people made movies. I'm not saying they're bad, I just don't see what separates them from Pryor's movies other than quality. Even if it's arguable, is that enough to beat his competition?
Denzel
Eddie
Morgan
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Sam
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It should right? Otherwise, any popular, critically acclaimed movie could be considered a classic. To me, 'important/classic' should mean extremely culturally relevant or so significant that if it never existed, it would change how people made movies. I'm not saying they're bad, I just don't see what separates them from Pryor's movies other than quality. Even if it's arguable, is that enough to beat his competition?
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In my opinion, your definition of classic is far too narrow, then. While that definitely describes A reason movie achieves classic status, it's certainly not the ONLY reason. And ultimately, what makes a movie classic is just the overall quality of the movie as a whole.

For example, Mad Max Fury Road is seen as a classic. The plot could easily be summed up as "It's basically just a really long chase scene", absolutely none of the performances were really all that amazing, and movie history definitely would be the exact same if the movie was never made. But it's a movie that's definitely greater than the sum of its parts, and everything combines to an amazing experience that holds up amazingly well.

The same exercise could be done for plenty of classics. So, sometimes it's really just that the movie was just really good, and not something genre or moment defining. Especially since it's hard to truly determine those factors until years later.

All that aside, I think the only actors on that list that are clearly above him are Denzel, Sam, and Will (who ironically walked through a lot doors Eddie's career opened. You could say that Will's career is a lot like Eddie's, but if he started in family friendly comedy and pivoted to more adult faire, as opposed to the opposite for Eddie).

Of that list, Morgan Freeman and Laurence Fishburne are really the only ones that are close, and I'd say they're generally seen as less important actors.
 
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