has Westbrook already surpassed Gary Payton?

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I favor players who put up meaningful stats and have shown they can play within a team structure over someone who chases triple doubles and is unreliably inconsistent and reckless at the worst times.

So for me personally this isn't close. I believe GP could have been the best player on a championship team. I don't feel that way about Russ.
 

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I favor players who put up meaningful stats and have shown they can play within a team structure over someone who chases triple doubles and is unreliably inconsistent and reckless at the worst times.

So for me personally this isn't close. I believe GP could have been the best player on a championship team. I don't feel that way about Russ.


Lol his team consistently wins I love gp he was great defensively but westbrook already has a better overall resume.
 
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No.

Gary Payton was on another level. He was a menace to defend because he was 6'4", had handles, was a hell of a finisher, could sink the 3 and would talk epic levels of shyt in your face. He could run the fast break but his game shined in the half court offense. Him & Kemp were unfair at times. His defense? The Glove's the only PG in league history to win DPOY.

He would've won a chip in 95-96 had George KKKarl's dumb ass let him guard Jordan in the Finals from the start instead of waiting for Game 3 to finally let the league's best defender take on Jordan.

Westbrook is a savage and will probably win MVP. Him averaging a triple double for the season was Herculean and phenomenal. But defensively, he doesn't compare to Payton. As far as playing styles go, we've seen that Russ' playing style can at times come to his team's detriment. That was never the case with Payton.
Wasn't it Game 4 after the dropped the first three?

Jordan's before/after numbers :picard:
Pre-Glove: 31 points, 46 fg%, 50 3fg%, 12.3 FTA.
Post-Glove: 23.7 points, 36.7 fg%, 11.1 3fg% 10 FTA.

What would have happened if GP started on Jordan game one is every bit as interesting a talking point as a hypothetical Rockets/Bulls match up.
 

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Low key, this is an interesting debate.

I would say no. Westbrook is the better athlete, rebounder, and slasher. Payton is the greatest defensive pg ever, better passer, and more efficient scorer. He had a good post-up game also. Now that I think about it, I would love to see Russ vs. a '96 Glove one-on-one.
Westbrook gettin all that jawin from the Glove bout them clothes :why:
That 1/1 would be something special to watch :wow:
 

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They're So Different It's Hard To Say But Is Probably Pick Russ
 

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Wasn't it Game 4 after the dropped the first three?

Jordan's before/after numbers :picard:
Pre-Glove: 31 points, 46 fg%, 50 3fg%, 12.3 FTA.
Post-Glove: 23.7 points, 36.7 fg%, 11.1 3fg% 10 FTA.

What would have happened if GP started on Jordan game one is every bit as interesting a talking point as a hypothetical Rockets/Bulls match up.

Yeah, you're right...Game 4 was when KKKarl made that adjustment.
 

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Westbrook gettin all that jawin from the Glove bout them clothes :why:
That 1/1 would be something special to watch :wow:

Payton doesn't have the athleticism to check Westbrook especially sincr hand checking is prohibited.

Payton had Matt Maloney give him the business in 97 but Payton could have had current Westbrook on lockdown :why:
 

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Payton doesn't have the athleticism to check Westbrook especially sincr hand checking is prohibited.

Payton had Matt Maloney give him the business in 97 but Payton could have had current Westbrook on lockdown :why:
You can pretend to be not intrigued. Westbrooks a beast :manny:
Glove ain't layin down for nobody :yeshrug:
Pick another pg you want guarding him.
 
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