has Westbrook already surpassed Gary Payton?

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gp in this climate given the greenlight and drowning his man on the other side would be brazy
russ puts up big stats but he's a charging bull and he will burnout without reaching glory the way he plays
gp is the better basketball player as a whole russ is a hell of an entertainer doe

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Stat nerds are in here taking Russ over Payton because he took more shots and got more uncontested rebounds. :mjlol:


God damn I wish I was a basketball GM and the rest of these posters were my competition. :francis:


Let's start trying to build a championship team - I get Payton and you get Russ. :mjgrin:

What's next - you get Harden and I get Kawhi? You get Aldridge and I get Draymond? You get Derozan and I get Klay? :mjgrin:


This game gonna be fun. :pachaha:
 

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Low key, this is an interesting debate.

I would say no. Westbrook is the better athlete, rebounder, and slasher. Payton is the greatest defensive pg ever, better passer, and more efficient scorer. He had a good post-up game also. Now that I think about it, I would love to see Russ vs. a '96 Glove one-on-one.

96 glove with 96 rules ? would take westbrook lunch..

Well pg defense isn't as important as rim protectors...i think Russ is on another level on offense GP used to put in work tho

Payton guarded more than just PGs :mjlol:
 

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Stat nerds are in here taking Russ over Payton because he took more shots and got more uncontested rebounds. :mjlol:


God damn I wish I was a basketball GM and the rest of these posters were my competition. :francis:


Let's start trying to build a championship team - I get Payton and you get Russ. :mjgrin:

What's next - you get Harden and I get Kawhi? You get Aldridge and I get Draymond? You get Derozan and I get Klay? :mjgrin:


This game gonna be fun. :pachaha:

You really think GP is on Russ level offensively? I'm just not seeing it bro
 

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You really think GP is on Russ level offensively? I'm just not seeing it bro
While I agree that Russ is a better scorer , The Glove only averaged about 6 points less in their career coupled with being probably the best perimeter defender ever at his position.My mans got 9 All defensive teams compared to Russ's 0...shiiiiet .
 
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While I agree that Russ is a better scorer , The Glove only averaged about 6 points less in their career coupled with being probably the best perimeter defender at his position.My mans got 9 All defensive teams compared to Russ's 0...shiiiiet .

Yeah I agree the gap on D is bigger than the gap on O
 

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While I agree that Russ is a better scorer , The Glove only averaged about 6 points less in their career coupled with being probably the best perimeter defender ever at his position.My mans got 9 All defensive teams compared to Russ's 0...shiiiiet .
Not just at his position. He was arguably the best in the league.
 

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GP has a much higher Basketball IQ and is a better defender.

People don't talk about it, but Westbrook is REALLY bad at driving to the rim. Not sure who brought it up on here as well either @Malta or @Gil Scott-Heroin but it feels like Westbrook is ALWAYS missing layups near the rim. That shyt is incredible to watch how bad he is at that.
 
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