Have Black People Ever Had An Influential Religion?

[MaLi]

As spiritually and mentally in tune you folks were back then, the key thing is just that - back then. Times have changed. The world has changed so so much. If you continue to let religion keep you in the dirt and the caves, eventually you will be entirely left behind, or suppressed even worse than now.

Im gonna respectfully disagree because Ive already stated that when we have CONTROL or our religion(spiritual system) and our images we do better with relatively less.


NOI being one example. Im not talking about Malcolm, Elija, or Farakhan cause thats what they want us to focus on, and too much power usually corrupts humans. Im talking about discipline, pride, health, knowledge of others, and knowledge of self for those who truly believe

 

[MaLi]

Asians were introduced to Buddhism by Indians just like Europeans and Africans were introduced to Christianity and Islam by foreigners. You pose your question in a way where black people seem like the ones "left out," when this isn't the case.

Indians are Asians breh

 

[MaLi]

Arabs have Islam
Whites have Christianity and Catholicism
Jews have Judaism
Asians have Buddhism

...people from other races, adopt these people's religions, including blacks. Black Americans were introduced to Christianity. But have blacks people ever had a religion to call their own? One that solidifies their connection with "God", like other races?

Ma'at is your answer and the root of most religions we know about

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

For someone who does not follow religion, you seem to act as if you are extremely religious, and you defend it awfully hard.

LOL, I know the text from using it to defend myself in a family full of Born-Again Christians. If it seems I'm religious, you're mistaken. The criticisms I see levelled at the text from the majority of the posters on this forum are laughable. I don't get into theological discussions. This is about the role of religion in the 'Black' community, or in ANY community. The charge that it's role has been largely detrimental is invalid. You'll, of course, cite many examples in an attempt to prove otherwise, but if they were, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.​

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Indians are Asians breh

I know that but most people identify Asian with east and southeast Asians.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Ma'at is your answer and the root of most religions we know about

Not really. Some influence on others in the region yeah, but root of most religions? Na.

 

[joeychizzle]

Im gonna respectfully disagree because Ive already stated that when we have CONTROL or our religion(spiritual system) and our images we do better with relatively less.


NOI being one example. Im not talking about Malcolm, Elija, or Farakhan cause thats what they want us to focus on, and too much power usually corrupts humans. Im talking about discipline, pride, health, knowledge of others, and knowledge of self for those who truly believe

Discipline, pride, health and knowledge can all be sought and expanded upon without the aid of religion. Spirituality is nothing if you as a people are walking the streets knowing the police and a sizable number of the people are not your friend.

Doing better with less is great in certain situations, but this is a culture, a community that we speak of. Financial and social security would matter more to me, but that's just me. Spirituality does not change people's often wrongful perceptions of black people, nor does it advance the society. I'm not saying completely throw it in the bushes, just.. prioritize a little. But then again this is coming from an atheist, so spirituality most likely ranks higher on your list.

P.S. I don't have much against Islam, but they're tripping about pork. That haram swine is delicious

 

[MaLi]

I know that but most people identify Asian with east and southeast Asians.

Messin with you.
My British brehs call Indians "Asian" and I think Chinese(east asian) Orientals or something like that. Could be wrong as this was years ago when i first realized titles mean different things to different people in different areas of the world

 

[Swagnificent]

Arabs have Islam
Whites have Christianity and Catholicism
Jews have Judaism
Asians have Buddhism

...people from other races, adopt these people's religions, including blacks. Black Americans were introduced to Christianity. But have blacks people ever had a religion to call their own? One that solidifies their connection with "God", like other races?

Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam were started by black people stupid. don't fall for the fake arab/jew trick. the OG arabs and jews were black.

 

[MaLi]

Not really. Some influence on others in the region yeah, but root of most religions? Na.

Ok let me rephrase.

The religions (minus Buddism cause i wont front like i know) the OP is talking about are influenced by Maat/Native Africans/Black people who were on top scientifically and spiritually before white people and octoroons came through and crushed the buildings

 

[joeychizzle]

LOL, I know the text from using it to defend myself in a family full of Born-Again Christians. If it seems I'm religious, you're mistaken. The criticisms I see levelled at the text from the majority of the posters on this forum are laughable. I don't get into theological discussions. This is about the role of religion in the 'Black' community, or in ANY community. The charge that it's role has been largely detrimental is invalid. You'll, of course, cite many examples in an attempt to prove otherwise, but if they were, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.​

Regardless of whether or not it is detrimental or not, it must be argued that there isn't much good being done either. No sources or examples. Just my observations.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The world has changed so so much. If you continue to let religion keep you in the dirt and the caves, eventually you will be entirely left behind, or suppressed even worse than now.

This is false. The world hasn't really changed and religion isn't the cause of the current state of the "Black' community. The actual cause is the system of racial oppression that only happened in North America. That system was based almost entirely on economics and spread due to America's influence on the rest of the world.​

 

[joeychizzle]

This is false. The world hasn't really changed and religion isn't the cause of the current state of the "Black' community. The actual cause is the system of racial oppression that only happened in North America. That system was based almost entirely on economics and spread due to America's influence on the rest of the world.​

Less time spent repenting and sitting in church, and more time in the library, classrooms and trading floors, would certainly help. It certainly isn't the cause of the current state, but it doesn't help. Praying to god after another innocent black child gets shot does nothing. But, black kids reading up on law and deciding to fight crime and injustice would do SOMETHING.

 

[NERO]

This is false. The world hasn't really changed and religion isn't the cause of the current state of the "Black' community. The actual cause is the system of racial oppression that only happened in North America. That system was based almost entirely on economics and spread due to America's influence on the rest of the world.​

Blacks were being systematically oppressed by the Arabs, Spaniards and Portuguese long before they set foot on North American soil proper.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Regardless of whether or not it is detrimental or not, it must be argued that there isn't much good being done either. No sources or examples. Just my observations.

That's calling for a value judgment. You don't value it so you won't see the 'good'.

The issue isn't whether it's good for YOU, though.
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