Have you ever met a selfless, kind hearted, pleasant, unassuming conservative voter in real life?

[MMS]

Speak your truth, Breh

the truth been in broad daylight for CENTURIES
Libertas - Wikipedia

"Hellenistic culture" is largely wrapped around the worship of beauty specifically feminine beauty. When you look at most white cultural customs it is their women before anything else even if it is degrading to them. This is because the process of birth has and always has been difficult for them so they trust women when it comes to procreation and the rituals they are willing to endure to have it happen (guess).

I remember watching boardwalk empire when after the minstrel show the man forced ole dude to fukk his wife while he watched

the truth is this shyt we see now has happened and has BEEN happening for much longer than people would be comfortable to see.

 

[F K]

No, older blacks weren’t/aren’t conservative? Or what?

Name me one election where the black k vote went to the more conservative candidate . Even Mondale got 90+ percent

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

I live in the suburbs, so I know some nice white conservative families, but I will never trust them. I know if shyt went down they wouldn't be there for me.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

most black politicians in American history are and still are republican
List of African-American Republicans - Wikipedia

major names include:

Frederick Douglass
Martin Luther King Jr
Booker T Washington
Harriet Tubman

but they are "labeled" and passed off as clearly deluded. Search history of Dems and blacks politicians
NPR Choice page

folks need to stop thinking racism is political, got nothing to do with politics and never has. Has everything to do with white sexual inferiority.

it should be noted the republican party has not always been exclusively associated with conservatism and the democratic party has not always been exclusively associated with liberalism. both parties used to have progressive and conservative wings.

before the 1960s they were more like political structures that people used to become viable politicians. the democratic party was the system primarily for the South and major cities, the republican party was the system primarily for the North. because the democratic parts strongest base was in the south it represented the interests of white southern racists who wanted to restrict black rights in every regard after the end of slavery, and create a social hierarchy that resembled the period of slavery as closely as possible. as a result the black americans who were politically enfranchised almost always supported or joined the republican party, because it was less intently and actively trying to fukk them over (although both parties werent shyt in general at this point, the republicans were the only viable option for black voters). more importantly, there was space for them that didnt exist in what was a neo-confederate democratic party

civil rights legislation changed this because southern democrats who supported segregation abandoned the party. in 64 the democratic candidate supported federal measures to end segregation and the republican candidate thought it was an infringement on “states rights” this is why 64 was the first election in which the republican party won the deep south. a long term result has been the gradual realignment of both parties - democratic party now relies on black voters and the republicans rely on southern whites. since then the parties have become much more ideological, whereas before they were less consistent.

 

[Pressure]

Uh huh

You're attempting to

Name me one election where the black k vote went to the more conservative candidate . Even Mondale got 90+ percent

Would you consider Mondale more conservative?

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

American conservatism is the ideology of white traditionalism and white grievance. The Republicans of today are unquestionably the party of white traditionalism and white grievance, just like the Democrats used to be. The people you listed would not recognize the modern Republican party. Only one party is the party of white ethno-nationalism today. Racism gets it power from politics.

most black politicians in American history are and still are republican
List of African-American Republicans - Wikipedia

major names include:

Frederick Douglass
Martin Luther King Jr
Booker T Washington
Harriet Tubman

but they are "labeled" and passed off as clearly deluded. Search history of Dems and blacks politicians
NPR Choice page

folks need to stop thinking racism is political, got nothing to do with politics and never has. Has everything to do with white sexual inferiority.

 

[MMS]

it should be noted the republican party has not always been exclusively associated with conservatism and the democratic party has not always been exclusively associated with liberalism. both parties used to have progressive and conservative wings.

before the 1960s they were more like political structures that people used to become viable politicians. the democratic party was the system primarily for the South and major cities, the republican party was the system primarily for the North. because the democratic parts strongest base was in the south it represented the interests of white southern racists who wanted to restrict black rights in every regard after the end of slavery, and create a social hierarchy that resembled the period of slavery as closely as possible. as a result the black americans who were politically enfranchised almost always supported or joined the republican party, because it was less intently and actively trying to fukk them over (although both parties werent shyt in general at this point, the republicans were the only viable option for black voters).

civil rights legislation changed this because southern democrats who supported segregation abandoned the party. in 64 the democratic candidate supported federal measures to end segregation and the republican candidate thought it was an infringement on “states rights” this is why 64 was the first election in which the republican party won the deep south. a long term result has been the gradual realignment of both parties - democratic party now relies on black voters and the republicans rely on southern whites. since then the parties have become much more ideological, whereas before they were less consistent.

shyts a lie

the "republican candidate" you speak of is Barry Goldwater who changed republican sentiment in order to court those racists you speak of (which is also where Hillary Clinton (Rodham) got her start). Search your feelings and you'll realize why Democratic JFK was assassinated is ultimately his shift away from commonly held Dem beliefs.

dems rely on black voters because they sold them welfare via LBJ and his "Great Society". All that's come from that welfare is the destruction of black families, emasculation of the black male and reliance on the state (for some from the moment they are born). Now its a too big to fail situation which we are arguably testing right now with the coronavirus lockdowns.

When it does fail and folks realize they aint gonna help you (either side) youll understand the ramifications

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Read up on the "Lily White movement". Republicans shifted away from liberalism/egalitarianism beginning in the Reconstruction era. They realized that to win national elections, they needed to appeal to the racist southern conservatives. They did this by systematically purging blacks from positions of power in the Republican party and turning a blind eye to white terrorist groups like the KKK. Party is less important than core ideology.

shyts a lie

the "republican candidate" you speak of is Barry Goldwater who changed republican sentiment in order to court those racists you speak of (which is also where Hillary Clinton (Rodham) got her start. Search your feelings and you'll realize why Democratic JFK was assassinated is ultimately his shift away from commonly held Dem beliefs.

dems rely on black voters because they sold them welfare via LBJ and his "Great Society". All that's come from that welfare is the destruction of black families, emasculation of the black male and reliance on the state (for some from the moment they are born). Now its a too big to fail situation which we are arguably testing right now with the coronavirus lockdowns.

When it does fail and folks realize they aint gonna help you (either side) youll understand the ramifications

 

[Brehcepticon]

I don't know, breh. Can you tell me the Pythagorean Theorem without looking it up?

 

[MMS]

American conservatism is the ideology of white traditionalism and white grievance. The Republicans of today are unquestionably the party of white traditionalism and white grievance, just like the Democrats used to be. The people you listed would not recognize the modern Republican party. Only one party is the party of white ethno-nationalism today. Racism gets it power from politics.

no it doesnt, it gets its power from the dominant race in that country.

This line of thinking is dangerous cause you assume when white folks turn they will magically fight for you because of politics and not their skin. Dont be delusional

go to japan and tell them you are superior to them long enough and they will kill you/imprison you

Racism is racial superiority with unified belief that everyone else is lesser. Blacks get singled out (men specifically) for sexual superiority which infuriates men of other races.

 

[MMS]

Read up on the "Lily White movement". Republicans shifted away from liberalism/egalitarianism beginning in the Reconstruction era. They realized that to win national elections, they needed to appeal to the racist southern conservatives. They did this by systematically purging blacks from positions of power in the Republican party and turning a blind eye to white terrorist groups like the KKK. Party is less important than core ideology.

dont get me wrong, ive said time and again that racism does not know politics

the truth of the KKK is that theyve had members in their ranks of both parties. Their aim is and always has been to force their cultural belief on people even if it means violence (thus covering their face because they are cowards)

it puts a different perspective on the italian mobs cause they did their evil deeds out in the open

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

no it doesnt, it gets its power from the dominant race in that country.

How does that dominant race maintain it's power? Through legal machinations achieved through political clout. If it was just raw numbers, black folk would still be considered property.

This line of thinking is dangerous cause you assume when white folks turn they will magically fight for you because of politics and not their skin. Dont be delusional

White liberal allies were instrumental in getting black people legal protections. I know you militant types hate to hear it, but it's true.

Blacks get singled out (men specifically) for sexual superiority which infuriates men of other races.

You read too much Welsing, breh.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

shyts a lie

the "republican candidate" you speak of is Barry Goldwater who changed republican sentiment in order to court those racists you speak of (which is also where Hillary Clinton (Rodham) got her start). Search your feelings and you'll realize why Democratic JFK was assassinated is ultimately his shift away from commonly held Dem beliefs.

dems rely on black voters because they sold them welfare via LBJ and his "Great Society". All that's come from that welfare is the destruction of black families, emasculation of the black male and reliance on the state (for some from the moment they are born). Now its a too big to fail situation which we are arguably testing right now with the coronavirus lockdowns.

When it does fail and folks realize they aint gonna help you (either side) youll understand the ramifications

this is basically inaccurate. the great society policies were mostly undermined by nixon and ford, and then completely eviscerated by reagan. those programs are no longer nearly as relevant and are not a significant reason for contemporary black support for the democratic party.

from 1960 to 1968 the amount of black families at the poverty line went from around 50 to 30 percent, black unemployment also fell significantly. these numbers are likely not only because of the great society and im sure there were other factors im not aware of, but it definitely did not lead to greater dependence on the federal government - it led to less dependence because unemployment fell.

trying to ascribe political developments after 68 to the great society doesnt work because republican presidents drastically reduced the extent of those programs.

 

[MMS]

How does that dominant race maintain it's power? Through legal machinations achieved through political clout. If it was just raw numbers, black folk would still be considered property.

White liberal allies were instrumental in getting black people legal protections. I know you militant types hate to hear it, but it's true.

You read too much Welsing, breh.

political clout is misleading

racism is enforced by FORCE politics be damned. This is why both sides turn a blind eye to crime that benefits them. Consider this:

black woman raped = no coverage
asian woman raped = coverage by asian community and demands for justice
hispanic woman raped = coverage by hispanic community and demands for justice
white woman raped (by anyone not white) = clear public outrage and demands for the highest penalty of the law
white woman ramped (white perp) = must be misunderstanding and an unfortunate disagreement

i dont even know who Welsing is and I have my beliefs from personal experiences with people of all races not a handful of "influential people" who shaped my world view. The problem I have with the current coli view of politics is this precisely

everyone seems to think everything is either right or left. No in-between, no true personal belief, and a general consense by both parties that everything boils down to government fixes everything or free-market fixes everything

there is a reason this country votes generally down the middle. Its the path of "least resistance" from the perspective of those voting. With how polarized things are I don't like what history says about these kinds of points in history.

militancy isnt how id describe my position but rather Id hope to illuminate for more people the power of being self-sufficient and to wipe from your mind the idea that you need people or society to be strong and noble as a black man (thankfully many here have heard me).

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

this chart shows welfare recipients per capita of the general population. as you can see the sharpest rise was in the early to mid 70s - when ford and nixon were in power. this is in part because they stripped down great society programs that involved increased education spending and job training - this created a more stressful economic situation for poor americans, and more poor americans in general, and forced them to take state welfare at a higher rate than under LBJ