"He was the antichrist to a certain kind of hiphop fan" -?uestlove on Jay Z

[A.J.Soprano]

quote from his new memoir

When Jay-Z asks the Roots to back him at an MTV Unplugged show in 2001, Questlove's first instinct is to worry about alienating underground purists: "He was the antichrist to a certain kind of hip-hop fan."

Book Review: Questlove's 'Mo' Meta Blues' | Music News | Rolling Stone


He's right, Jay Z at one point was Hanna Montana status amongst hiphop heads, He embodied "pop" rap music. During the Nas/Jay battle, even though Nas had enjoyed plenty commercial success he was like the Antithesis to everything Jay represented at the time (which was the "machine" and the pop life) which was a major reason why alot of heads were in Nas's corner.



I don't know if he's still viewed that way today tho (cause I don't keep up with the latest hiphop anymore) but I'm assuming he's not. Especially with all the garbage out these days.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Questlove had me laughing when he brought up how Jay was rocking the Che t-shirt and was like ...man people are going just eat this shyt up.

 

[A.J.Soprano]

Questlove had me laughing when he brought up how Jay was rocking the Che t-shirt and was like ...man people are going just eat this shyt up.

u read the book?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

u read the book?

There was an interview where he points this out a little while back.

 

[wtfyomom]

i wouldnt say hes is alone but him puffy and biggie (and keep in mind big is my goat) started the ruining of hip hop

 

[L. Deezy]

i wouldnt say hes is alone but him puffy and biggie (and keep in mind big is my goat) started the ruining of hip hop

Nygga what??

 

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

been waiting for a pdf of this book for a hot minute, love the liners ?uest writes for the roots excited to read a full length project from him

 

[stealthbomber]

i wouldnt say hes is alone but him puffy and biggie (and keep in mind big is my goat) started the ruining of hip hop

this wont end well

 

[wtfyomom]

Nygga what??

they commercialized it, everytime i hear unreleased biggie the niggga was RAW as fukk and while he still kept his skill he started the turn. at the time i thought the more underground street shyt like bcc, mobb, etc could still have their own lane so i was like why the hate on biggie? but now i understand. puff ruined biggie but biggie sold out for money and then jay just bit the idea and ran with it to the bank. thank these 3 dudes for kanye, wayne and drake

 

[L. Deezy]

they commercialized it, everytime i hear unreleased biggie the niggga was RAW as fukk and while he still kept his skill he started the turn. at the time i thought the more underground street shyt like bcc, mobb, etc could still have their own lane so i was like why the hate on biggie? but now i understand. puff ruined biggie but biggie sold out for money and then jay just bit the idea and ran with it to the bank. thank these 3 dudes for kanye, wayne and drake

agree to disagree on this...

 

[blackslash]

they commercialized it, everytime i hear unreleased biggie the niggga was RAW as fukk and while he still kept his skill he started the turn. at the time i thought the more underground street shyt like bcc, mobb, etc could still have their own lane so i was like why the hate on biggie? but now i understand. puff ruined biggie but biggie sold out for money and then jay just bit the idea and ran with it to the bank. thank these 3 dudes for kanye, wayne and drake

WHat do those 3 have to do with the other 3

Except maybe Jay and Ye cuz of Ye's blowing up due to a direct Jay cosign



Correct me if im wrong but hasnt hip hop been commercialized since the late 80's tho?

And also correct me if im wrong...

but havent nikkaz been getting puppeteered by labels for the longest in hip hop

Including nikkaz like Nas, LL etc.?

I dont see the correlation u making nikka?

ANd Wayne been rappin since 97 so I dnt even know why his name on the list

Jay and Big started out in the streets and started out gaining they cred through the "back then mandatory" cypher

Seriously Im not following ur posts at all...put me on breh

 

[A.J.Soprano]

a Jay Z thread without his number one stan blackslash just wouldn't be right

 

[Greenhornet]

all those dudes commercial garb

 

[28 Gramz]

I think dude is tryin to say Puff/Biggie started that flossy/jiggy shyt in the game. Before Bad boy I don't remember alot of high fashion name drops,nikkas talkin about vvs diamonds etc..they took it to another level. The rap game became not only about how you sound but what you look like,what you're driving,your jewelry and money when Big and Puff were at the forefront of the game, especially after Biggie died, the corny million dollar videos and glossy sound of 1997 changed everything in the worst way.

Jay-Z just dikkrode the mafioso trend of 95-96 and did the same thing in 97 with Jiggy rap..nothing was his fault cause he wasn't thought about in the golden era.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Jay z is antichrist though. Look at Jay quoting a known devil worshipper in this demonic photograph.

Maybe his name should be Jay-D, for demon, friends.