"He was the antichrist to a certain kind of hiphop fan" -?uestlove on Jay Z

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I find it hilarious how hypocritical hiphop fans can be.....jayz content in his music IS hiphop, flossin and brangin has ALWAYS been a staple of hiphop but nikkaz try to down jayz cuz the level of success he's generated from it......but people will conviently sit there and act like big daddy kane and ra tha gawd wasn't spittin the same type of shyt before jay ever hit the scene but, i'll be damn if anybody dare say they didn't care bout the culture or wasn't hiphop......shyt bogus

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Oh, and don't leave out... "Boogie Down Productions, will always get paid!" :krs:

Look at KRS talking down to people who didn't have a steady income in '87. Shame! :scusthov:

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The shyt that kills me is the whole "I can't relate" shyt. nikkas act like Jay just started braggin' these last 5 years 'nshyt. nikka, you couldn't relate when you were a kid goin' to school and he was rappin' about goin' to clubs and takin' chicks home either. You couldn't relate when you were a teenager with a bus pass and this nikka was rappin' about the Maybach. Now it's a problem cause you an adult. :russ:
 

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All them "real hip hop" cats hated Jay,cause he'd became the class of folks they resented and thought weren't real....but was far enough into their world, that he'd always have influence.

lowkey, he did/does have devil like qualities... some fake ass god-like status to a legion of fatherless fans who will follow his commands blindly....but that wasn't the reason they felt that way about Jay, it was that the nikka was on Oprah, and hanging with the people who weren't of the culture constantly


 

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Yeah to backpackers in the late 90s they werent trying to hear that jigginess and for a good 6 years there was a divide between them. Then comes Jay himself with the Blueprint and kinda briged that with Kanye.
Ironically he also tried to come at one of the dudes that some people felt created that divided with nas and esco himself gained some fans back with Stillmatic despite not having the production like Jay
 

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^^^ Tru. It's funny that most backpackin' muhukkas like to forget they hated Nas for like 5 years and even inspired one of his most popular songs... it's always been real convenient how they like to sweep that period of his career under the rug.
 

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ima see what other books that company got out when i cop this one. i got the bob dylan one and that shyt is my shyt when i'm shytting.

as far as jay...that hoodie is hot and i'ma cop that. he was pretty flashy but he always had a hood aspect about him. now the nikka is super super paid and he has fans of all demographics. maybe he is the antichrist of the game still except he's at the point where a lot of people like him. old white people that don't listen to rap like jay. that shyt cray.
 

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Questlove is corny :pacspit:

And, I still believe Hov's the antichrist, no way a black camel has all that power :pachaha:
 

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Jay Z admits it himself that he's a hustler disguised as a rapper. I hate how he talks about he's all about the culture like the hypocrite that he is when he was just using rap to get rich. I see where Kanye West gets it from. :patrice:

yep, I always think about this when he says shyt like "hip-hop started out in the park. we used to do it to avoid the narcs"

Jay's too cool to just be a rapper
 

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Rap music within Hip Hop used to police itself. Whether calling out bitin or selin out. Puff came thru while taking a Bay Area slang(playa hater) and used it as a shield to make Pop/Corporate Rap music. So if anyone called him out they would be perceived as a hater. Others followed suit and this really created a divide in which you began to have mainstream vs underground.

Puff's formula/strategy was then used by the industry because now selling out had so called street cred. Puff got Everbody(Black Men AND Women/white men AND women/Old and Young, etc) without being considered a sell out. Those who called him out were considered Haters and were regulated to the underground. Labels stopped signing Hip Hop groups unless they followed the formula set by Puff along with whatever trend was poppin at the time. So you no longer saw the variety in rap music like you did prior to Puff in the mid 90s.

:takedat: so demonic
 

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Maybe I'm paranoid but The Roots seemed like the type of dudes that would consider Jay the antichrist. Prior to working with him I mean. They were always on some "keep it real" hip-hop shyt, dropped a video ("What They Do") in the 90s clowning overly materialistic rappers, then they go work with Jay and Jimmy Fallon.

So I dunno. This statement seems like he's trying to distance himself from what he used to stand for. "A certain kind of hip-hop fan", eh Quest? :mjpls:

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