He's not perfect, but where does Tariq Nasheed stand with you as a black voice in the media?

[Poitier]

So yall gonna give me a link to HC1 so I can point some examples out or nah

But that would be patriarchy


http://putlocker.is/watch-hidden-colors-online-free-putlocker-461811.html

 

[PartyHeart]

Why would he not? Dyson could easily get top tier rappers and entertainers for the lowest common denomination and blend it with the black academics.

And you are SERIOUSLY overstating any kind of misogyny. I have yet to hear it since I've followed him, starting at HC3.

I don't think I am but I did watch the doc years ago. I do remember having reactions in regards to things said offhandedly about women and my friend who isn't even sensitive to those issues doing the same. Like I said I will gladly point out the areas I'm referring to if someone would provide me a link, because I damn sure do not have that crap in my library

 

[marcuz]

So yall gonna give me a link to HC1 so I can point some examples out or nah

id rather you pt out the flaws in hc3

 

[PartyHeart]

Just started watching and the first thing I see is Shahrazad Ali. This shyt

id rather you pt out the flaws in hc3

You are not about to get me to watch another version of this

 

[Poitier]

HC1 isn't flawed so far 40 mins in

 

[Poitier]

Ok the Olmecs shyt 50 mins in

 

[Tropical Fantasy]

Just started watching and the first thing I see is Shahrazad Ali. This shyt



You are not about to get me to watch another version of this

HC3 focuses on the history of racism in America tho. Besides the section on organ trafficking, everything is that movie is indisputable

 

[Poitier]

Just started watching and the first thing I see is Shahrazad Ali. This shyt

She didn't even say anything

 

[Poitier]

They DID get some stuff right as to the formation of the KKK being mostly economically based and a response to white male unemployment, the psychology of american education and mental disease, religious iconography being misused, and pre-columbian contact, lost images of african influence of culture and architecture, black patron saints, black samurais, efforts to hide dark skin representations in the media, Gandhi being racist, asian and pacific influence of african lineage, etc.

This made up the bulk of the movie

Mansa Musa is Montezuma?

Ok

Cannibalism NEVER happening in Africa?

Ok

Melanin being a super chemical and Melanin being a fetal developer of "soul?" This just shows a lack of understanding of modern biology and embryology. Its kinda embarrassing. Its largely pseudoscience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin_theory

Not super powers but it does have advantages

Africa igrowth are few and far inbetween.

6 of the fastest growing nations are in Africa and Africa is the fastest growing continent

All moors are black? As if North Africans are the same as West, East, and Southern Africans? Really?

North African ancestry is primarily East African but present day they are mixed

The focus on Egypt is pretty narrow and limited. Not everything black is from Egypt. Its been "arab" for a REALLY long time.

3000 years of Black Egypt or 1000 years of Arab Egypt?

Astrological superiority? What? Stop it.

At that point in time? Yes they were.

Scottish people are africans because of black beards? Really?

Ok

Nations are falling based on how they invaded africa? Really?

What do u mean?

 

[Poitier]

I don't think I am but I did watch the doc years ago. I do remember having reactions in regards to things said offhandedly about women and my friend who isn't even sensitive to those issues doing the same. Like I said I will gladly point out the areas I'm referring to if someone would provide me a link, because I damn sure do not have that crap in my library

Shahrazad had a 1 min segment dissing Black feminism

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Tariq with the migo flow

That nikka was spittin

 

[PartyHeart]

We can get into some of the falsehoods in this video on another day but just pointing out some of the misogyny:

21 minute mark he comments that Black women look at white men as saviors because of Christianity. Nevermind that in America both Black men and women subscribe to Christianity at the highest rates of all races, but only Black women are effected and it causes them to apparently treat Black men negatively. No mention of it having any negative effects on Black men and the way they view and Black women. And then of course Ali followed this by some man pleasing talk.

1 hr 15 minutes in and he's lying about Black feminism. He completely ignores the fact that Black women were often treated as second class citizens within the Civil Rights Movement and that's what sparked Black feminism. He says women's rights weren't being jeopardized in the Black community, even though activists much smarter than him who lived during the time say they were. The way he frames Civil Rights is a dead give away to his misogynoir too. Women being classified as minorities because of their disadvantaged status and is a bad thing, as if Black people does not include Black women. And then Ali starts her stupid shyt again. She did get it right that there was no sisterhood between Black and white women during the feminist movement though. We never bought their crap, it was always about us and the way we recognized WE were being treated.

The irony of course in all this is that they talk about the white man's religion, when all this about the man being the authority and head of the family comes from that white religion. This insistence on subjugation via gender did not exist in pre-colonial Africa. In fact Europeans used that fact to criticize Africans as "savage". Because the Black man was not attempting to control and dominate his woman that was more evidence we were "uncivilized".

Light skinned dude even goes so far as to say women were being given all these "favors" and extra rights and that caused Black men to want to become women They frame racism as an attack on Black manhood and make it a point to act as if there is no attacks on Black women. He even goes so far as to frame education as "feminized", which first off attaches negativity to femaleness, but also has the added effect on negating the gains Black women are currently seeing in that area and playing up Black women's success as some type of help to white supremacy and indoctrination.

All in all what I noticed is that its very male centric. I understand why it is (because of his audience) but I just find it ironic because the whole purpose is that this was started because of being upset at the eurocentric view of our history. But then you turn around do the same thing to half your population.

 

[Poitier]

We can get into some of the falsehoods in this video on another day but just pointing out some of the misogyny:

21 minute mark he comments that Black women look at white men as saviors because of Christianity. Nevermind that in America both Black men and women subscribe to Christianity at the highest rates of all races, but only Black women are effected and it causes them to apparently treat Black men negatively. No mention of it having any negative effects on Black men and the way they view and Black women. And then of course Ali followed this by some man pleasing talk.

1 hr 15 minutes in and he's lying about Black feminism. He completely ignores the fact that Black women were often treated as second class citizens within the Civil Rights Movement and that's what sparked Black feminism. He says women's rights weren't being jeopardized in the Black community, even though activists much smarter than him who lived during the time say they were. The way he frames Civil Rights is a dead give away to his misogynoir too. Women being classified as minorities because of their disadvantaged status and is a bad thing, as if Black people does not include Black women. And then Ali starts her stupid shyt again. She did get it right that there was no sisterhood between Black and white women during the feminist movement though. We never bought their crap, it was always about us and the way we recognized WE were being treated.

The irony of course in all this is that they talk about the white man's religion, when all this about the man being the authority and head of the family comes from that white religion. This insistence on subjugation via gender did not exist in pre-colonial Africa. In fact Europeans used that fact to criticize Africans as "savage". Because the Black man was not attempting to control and dominate his woman that was more evidence we were "uncivilized".

Light skinned dude even goes so far as to say women were being given all these "favors" and extra rights and that caused Black men to want to become women They frame racism as an attack on Black manhood and make it a point to act as if there is no attacks on Black women. He even goes so far as to frame education as "feminized", which first off attaches negativity to femaleness, but also has the added effect on negating the gains Black women are currently seeing in that area and playing up Black women's success as some type of help to white supremacy and indoctrination.

And all of that was less than 10 mins of a 1 hr and 40 min video and very debatable

 

[PartyHeart]

And all of that was less than 10 mins of a 1 hr and 40 min video and very debatable

When you take that in collection with his background and what he currently writes on his social media, blogs, etc. (doesn't he own a website aimed at teaching Black men how to objectify women?) you can clearly see he's a misogynist.

 

[Poitier]

21 minute mark he comments that Black women look at white men as saviors because of Christianity. Nevermind that in America both Black men and women subscribe to Christianity at the highest rates of all races

He clearly says Black Man and Women "don't know who they are" and that effects self-perception and in academics. Black men may classify as Christian but Black Women fill the churches.

1 hr 15 minutes in and he's lying about Black feminism. He completely ignores the fact that Black women were often treated as second class citizens within the Civil Rights Movement and that's what sparked Black feminism. He says women's rights weren't being jeopardized in the Black community, even though activists much smarter than him who lived during the time say they were. The way he frames Civil Rights is a dead give away to his misogynoir too. Women being classified as minorities because of their disadvantaged status and is a bad thing, as if Black people does not include Black women. And then Ali starts her stupid shyt again. She did get it right that there was no sisterhood between Black and white women during the feminist movement though. We never bought their crap, it was always about us and the way we recognized WE were being treated.

Ok fair

The irony of course in all this is that they talk about the white man's religion, when all this about the man being the authority and head of the family comes from that white religion. This insistence on subjugation via gender did not exist in pre-colonial Africa. In fact Europeans used that fact to criticize Africans as "savage". Because the Black man was not attempting to control and dominate his woman that was more evidence we were "uncivilized".

This isn't true. Certain tribes did and others didn't.

Light skinned dude even goes so far as to say women were being given all these "favors" and extra rights and that caused Black men to want to become women They frame racism as an attack on Black manhood and make it a point to act as if there is no attacks on Black women.

An argument can be made that welfare is an attack on the Black nuclear family by filling many of the male's role

He even goes so far as to frame education as "feminized", which first off attaches negativity to femaleness, but also has the added effect on negating the gains Black women are currently seeing in that area and playing up Black women's success as some type of help to white supremacy and indoctrination.

Really? I thought he was saying that Black people don't learn like Whites and male/female don't learn the same either thus the success of gender based schools

All in all what I noticed is that its very male centric. I understand why it is (because of his audience) but I just find it ironic because the whole purpose is that this was started because of being upset at the eurocentric view of our history. But then you turn around do the same thing to half your population.

Fair enough but Nzinga, Hatshephut, Isis etc all got props but yes more Black Women should be involved