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It was a stupid line by Triple H. None of the three guys who he named were even around during the Monday Night Wars as main run with the ball as the top guy players. The line was fine if he would have used different names of wrestlers that were going to be something but never did.

I mean him and Shawn when they were undisputed number ones for the most part drew terribly. Not saying others didn't draw bad because many others were not the answer after Hogan/before Austin either (Nash, Bret, etc..) but it was telling he named those three, and it's just for personal agendas:

He has ALWAYS hated Jericho. I mean always, he thinks the guy is overrated trash. He has went out of his way to bury him any chance he gets, and they have fought maybe like 50 times and Jericho has NEVER won once (except for that phantom win on RAW they took back). Triple H made sure Jericho could/would never pin him.

Edge, he has been harping on him now for a couple of months, which is new. It's news to me that he was never considered credible by those in power backstage, but Triple H is really trying to prove a point that people though that.

And RVD, well he hates RVD right now, because RVD is not going to work more then they want him too and he (Triple H) was the one who personally called him and signed him to whatever RVD wanted.

Other reasons are just to make people mad, which he has by this thread.

Has Cripple H ever lost to RVD? I just can't recall. I think he kept jobbing to Cripple H once he came back from that "Beautiful Day" return shyt in 2002. RVD was red hot all of 2002 and eventually he faced Cripple H the all of 2002 and kept losing. Something like that. They faced off at the end of 2003 too in NY and I think it was interrupted or Cripple H won again.
 

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Has Cripple H ever lost to RVD? I just can't recall. I think he kept jobbing to Cripple H once he came back from that "Beautiful Day" return shyt in 2002. RVD was red hot all of 2002 and eventually he faced Cripple H the all of 2002 and kept losing. Something like that. They faced off at the end of 2003 too in NY and I think it was interrupted or Cripple H won again.
I think twice during their feud on RAWs/Smackdown. Tag matches though, RVD pinned him once clean.

He never lost to Jericho in like any capacity (again except for that RAW that we all know about).
 

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Sure, he can make these remarks under the guise of working the smarks. But we know he always has an agenda. He's insecure about his place in history.

Because he never got over the Warrior squash, he'll always be viewed as a Michaels sidekick, he was clearly a tier below Austin and Rock and because people attribute a lot of his success to marrying Steph.

Didn't he say that Vince had a plan for him and Rock to both go to Hollywood and be successful? He said something VERY insecure and crazy recently...he said Rock went to Hollywood and blew up and he's a corporate big shot and going forward in that avenue. Something ALONG those lines...he said that in the last year on DVD or an interview. It was fukking hilarious. Like studios were calling him up to rise and get 10 million a flick.like he was gonna do a 70 million opening from the get go.
 

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Has Cripple H ever lost to RVD? I just can't recall. I think he kept jobbing to Cripple H once he came back from that "Beautiful Day" return shyt in 2002. RVD was red hot all of 2002 and eventually he faced Cripple H the all of 2002 and kept losing. Something like that. They faced off at the end of 2003 too in NY and I think it was interrupted or Cripple H won again.

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I think twice during their feud on RAWs/Smackdown. Tag matches though, RVD pinned him once clean.

He never lost to Jericho in like any capacity (again except for that RAW that we all know about).

Yeah..for whatever reason..he lost more to Kurt Angle than to Jericho. He kept going over Jericho ALOT. Even leading to WM 2002 when he had the Undisputed title..it was really about him and Stephanie and him pedigreeing Stephanie in Toronto. Buck wild.
 

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And I'd say what hurt Austin's heel turn more than anything was the fact that both he and HHH got hurt early on. It was when Austin was hurt and singing songs and shyt to McMahon that the wheels came off that shyt.

Austin has spoke on this alot..it's a combo of things. In order for it to have took, basically he needed a stronger face. He needed the Rock to spin off and get him heat. It would of gotten him booed much more. The Rock getting beat down after WM 17 had fans in TX throwing trash at Steve Austin over that steel cage. Unheard of. They didn't buy Booker against him...they were into Jericho and Benoit for that Triple Threat but that was just one month....they kind of cheered him kicking Undertaker's ass in that one month build they did after they got the tag titles.. It would of been interesting if Sting or Goldberg got signed and what the fans would of done..I can't PICTURE the fans turning on Sting for no fukking reason. I just can't so that would of been a unique spin of Austin vs Sting in that run.
 

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I think twice during their feud on RAWs/Smackdown. Tag matches though, RVD pinned him once clean.

He never lost to Jericho in like any capacity (again except for that RAW that we all know about).

what about on smackdown? I'm asking because I don't know...but he has a win recorded in 2002
 

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In their title match at Unforgiven, RVD won by DQ which is technically a win and like I said he has pinned him in tag matches.
Yeah..for whatever reason..he lost more to Kurt Angle than to Jericho. He kept going over Jericho ALOT. Even leading to WM 2002 when he had the Undisputed title..it was really about him and Stephanie and him pedigreeing Stephanie in Toronto. Buck wild.
Triple H has also hated RVD because during that one elimination chamber, RVD jumped off the cage for the frog splash, Triple H moved and like RVD's knees busted Triple H's throat and he like almost died lol.

He has said in interviews he doesn't blame him, but we all knows he holds grudges. He says the B+ line like all the time now, and we all know it came from Meltzer calling him a B+ like 15 years ago.

what about on smackdown? I'm asking because I don't know...but he has a win recorded in 2002
I do no remember this, but I guess it is possible.
 

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To sell the match...Cripple H basically said Daniel Bryan wasn't a star. "I only wrestle stars..A+ wrestlers...Undertaker, Rock, or Brock Lesnar. I would never wrestle the likes of you." Now...if Cripple H is as over as everyone says and everyone listens to him, why the fukk would anyone buy the PPV with him undercutting one half of the main event like that? It's insanity. One again...he proves he's out of the loop.
He barely even got a reaction last night to his "shooting ", the same way when he tried to bury punk and was saying how he only got that MITB reaction due to being in Chicago cena is the fans choice as the cried is chanting cm punk . He's out of touch
 

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The WWE business went downhill THE DAY HHH took over for Steve Austin. The day of. How often did Smackdown ever draw higher ratings than Raw. It did during the pre John Cena era. HHH is the OG b+ player which fuels his insecurity

People are getting caught up...Dave Meltzer called Cripple H a B+ player in 2002 and that's where Stephanie got the line from. That shyt has been burning his soul all of this time.
 

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Stephanie was more over as heel..people keep revising history on Cripple H in 2000. He didn't even really get all the way over until after Backlash 2000. They did this tweener turn with him too leading to Summerslam and the fans COMPLETELY shytted on his angle with Kurt and Stephanie and disregarded their pre match brawl while chanting ROCKY the entire time. It was funny shyt.

He came out to WM 2000 to silence that Rob Conway would be proud of.

False. HHH was only unover a few months after WM 15. When he smashed up Rock in the casket the rest was history
 

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False. HHH was only unover a few months after WM 15. When he smashed up Rock in the casket the rest was history
he got heat yeah but it was more heat to the entire regime. Shane's antics drew more heat. Backlash 2000 is actually a pretty solid indicator of when he was over as a heel because at mania 2000 the crowd DESPISED him at the finish and never looked back. They wanted rock to beat HHH SO BAD at backlash. And they got what they wanted thus the awesome finish.
 

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he got heat yeah but it was more heat to the entire regime. Shane's antics drew more heat. Backlash 2000 is actually a pretty solid indicator of when he was over as a heel because at mania 2000 the crowd DESPISED him at the finish and never looked back. They wanted rock to beat HHH SO BAD at backlash. And they got what they wanted thus the awesome finish.

Whats funny about that is this whole storyline is an exact repeat of almost 13 years ago where the Mcmahons overshadowed the whole main event. Yea the finish to WM 2000 was wrong and the reason that show was so forgettable. But that was Vince call not HHH
 

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Whats funny about that is this whole storyline is an exact repeat of almost 13 years ago where the Mcmahons overshadowed the whole main event. Yea the finish to WM 2000 was wrong and the reason that show was so forgettable. But that was Vince call not HHH
backlash 2000 dumps all over wrestlemania 2000, its almost like they thought "well they're gonna buy mania anyway, may as well milk it for a month longer" and did so.
 

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Hhh doesn't know how,to play this corporate character . He's positioning himself in a way so that he can still wrestle a legend but is hurting the character . He shouldn't be threatening and trying to physically intimidate Bryan that's stupid and makes Bryan and orton look bad .he should be selling his corporate power and have Bryan threatening to hit him but him using orton or security and threats to his contract to stop Bryan . Mr McMahon needs to teach him
This! Basically this has been the problem with the whole feud. But according to his supporters he's being da "goat heel" and this has been amazing tv but whatever :yawn:
 
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