Hillary on Bernie Sanders "Nobody likes him, he got nothing done"

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I dont think they fukk with him because for the longest he was an independent but became a demo for president race

Exactly this.

I have nothing against Bernie even though I think he's a better "idea" guy than an "action" guy. When push comes to shove, he struggles to get moderate Dems to fall in line. How the hell is he going to get conservatives on board with his ideas? People are acting like he'll be able to just pass whatever he wants as if there aren't two sides to the coin.

The main thing is that everyone talks about DNC corruption and helping Hillary. HRC was a Democrat. Bernie was/is an Independent that used the Democrat umbrella to give himself a platform. If he REALLY wanted to change the system, he'd run as an independent and use his own platform to draw in voters. He did what is politically expedient but then tries to act like he's above politics. I can respect the man, but he plays the game just like everyone else.
 

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Exactly this.

I have nothing against Bernie even though I think he's a better "idea" guy than an "action" guy. When push comes to shove, he struggles to get moderate Dems to fall in line. How the hell is he going to get conservatives on board with his ideas? People are acting like he'll be able to just pass whatever he wants as if there aren't two sides to the coin.

The main thing is that everyone talks about DNC corruption and helping Hillary. HRC was a Democrat. Bernie was/is an Independent that used the Democrat umbrella to give himself a platform. If he REALLY wanted to change the system, he'd run as an independent and use his own platform to draw in voters. He did what is politically expedient but then tries to act like he's above politics. I can respect the man, but he plays the game just like everyone else.

You do understand what would happen if bernie ran independent right?
 

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All this internal fighting and i thought the plan was to get Trump out of office..

Trump is trash and I'll gladly hold my nose and vote the democratic presidential nominee in November..

But it seems to me that the main people saying get Trump out by any means necessary, will only do so if their pet candidate is on the election ballot..

Just interesting across the board..
 

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serious question, What does it matter if he accomplished nothing if he was RIGHT and everyone stopped him due to corruption and money in politics?

What has he done vs is he right are two completely different things and his executive orders would be 20x better for everyone than any other candidate even if the congress says "fukk you"

The problem is...Bernie hasn’t been right on everything. He has had some very questionable votes. I wish Berners would stop dismissing this.

Also, he doesn’t appear to be as popular with voters as y’all try to make it seem.
 
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The point is to get your party in the Oval and control Congress.

All this bipartisan talk is bullshyt. Republicans do not want to work with Democrats unless it's some shyt they want(war funds etc). All the working across the aisle talk has always been non-sense. The only bipartisan bills have been crap(crime bill etc). You need to gain as much control as possible and force the issue. Even if you don't get most of your shyt passed, you need to get the idea out there into the mainstream so it can eventually break through once its normalized. Politics isn't an all or nothing game that people say it is.

People also need to start voting on local and state elections, those are just as important if not more important than federal bc most of the legislation that affects you on a daily basis is done on a local or state level tbh
 

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and @Rhakim what makes you look crazier is that all those quotes you're pulling from 2016 was when Barack was president and Hillary was a presidential candidate

the questions and statements I made were in a completely different context...so now, why are they both STILL talking about Bernie in 2020 when they are neither any more!? :mindblown:

you'd rather not discuss that, but go at some random poster online that you feel you need to expose as a "RigHT wInG AGeNt!!" :bryan:
 

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All this internal fighting and i thought the plan was to get Trump out of office..

Trump is trash and I'll gladly hold my nose and vote the democratic presidential nominee in November..

But it seems to me that the main people saying get Trump out by any means necessary, will only do so if their pet candidate is on the election ballot..

Just interesting across the board..

I asked this about a month ago and had one of these crazies go clean the fukk off on here, I mean it was something to see :mjlol:
 

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I asked this about a month ago and had one of these crazies go clean the fukk off on here, I mean it was something to see :mjlol:

Like when we was dumping on Harris and there was 50 other candidates running..

They were acting as if she was the last one standing.. :mjlol:


I cant wait until we have the actual nominee, and we can get down to the actual "vote or die" portion of this exercise..
 

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The Sanders brigade is out in force today.
 

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Good.

There should be no negotiations. We are at the point of no return here. And look at Trump. No room fo negotiations with him so why should a Leftist president start exorcising decorum?

Obama kowtowed to those fakkits because he thought people would suck his dikk for taking the high road. bytch fukk a high road! lives are at stake!

People criticize Jimmy Carter because he frankly was ahead of the general public as far as being progressive. His spineless Congress was a bunch of centrist who HATED him and thats why he got nothing done.

Now in 2020, the general public WANTS a Leftist President. Itll be those bytch Ass Bought off Dems who will be criticized if nothing gets done. And thats why the establishment Dems are pulling out all the stops.

Unless Bernie drastically outperforms the polls, it doesn’t appear that the general public wants a leftist President.
 

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fukk Bernie, he's too old and out of touch. The dems are choosing Biden as they white male candidate of choice. fukk him too.
he is too old but out of touch with what and who? how is old man bernie out of touch when AOC is in touch and is way younger and she supports him? SEe there. you dont make sense. make sense with your accusations or keep them to yourself. this goes for anyone. actually have some facts to back up what you say or dont say anything before you figure out if what you're about to say is true. everybody is quick to post and reply or say something but dont have any info to back it up good or bad.
 

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I dont think they fukk with him because for the longest he was an independent but became a demo for president race
that too. but its a reason he was an indie and not a dem and not putting money in the Dem bank account just like AOC aint either. The dude is for the people not for politicians. they hate that because to them its all about team and money. for him its about the people period. if they were more people centric he would've been a full on Dem from the jump. Truth is, what we've said for decades is true. The dem party is two parties in one. lefty progressive that are for the people economically as well as socially and those center right that are for the people socially and for big business/banks economically. but what most people dont on the outside dont get is that the dem party use to be more lefty progressive economically too. there's a reason bernie keeps bringing up FDR. people need to google him for context. and stop acting like what bernie is saying is brand new. it aint. this is old history dems. the current dems trying to act like its always been this corporate centrist dem nonsense. it hasnt. so the truth is, they are the imposter dems, not bernie.
 
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