Ricky Dunigan
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They lost and after the Austria Hungary empire fell, they were the biggest ones left to blame. 
History brehs....how was Germany in the wrong in WW1?
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Austria Hungary should have chill
And lose face for allowing Serbia to get away with murder?
African Peasant
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Serbia accepted the idea of an investigation. Serbia accepted all the conditions put by Austria-Hungaryry, except one ( a condition no one would ever accept). @O Fenômeno posted the conditions. Serbia was ready to accept a lot of things. They had enough to save face.
African Peasant
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Why is no one talking about Great Britain putting batteries in France's back? 
Feel like we need another thread on the trench warfare of the war
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Shook ones.
Serbia would’ve put on a sham investigation, then said something weird about Bosnia.
African Peasant
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WWI Germany army was the GOAT army in European history.
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No, but that doesn't change the fact that Germany still supported the Bolsheviks and the USSR, and they might not have succeeded without Germany's direct influence. Germany feared the rise of a powerful Russian Empire, but ultimately aided the rise of that empire in the USSR, not just during WWI, but after it as well.
The Reich contributed to the Lenin sneaking back into Russia but the success of the October Revolution wasn’t solely a Bolshevik endeavour.
Tryin to ignore 20/20 hindsight - i probably would have gone to war. Everyone in Europe was gearing up anyway. shyt was gonna pop one way or another. They were at a geographic disadvantage. It was a good plan to quickly knock out the French first. Just didn’t execute.
Germany’s biggest mistake was provoking America. U boats sinking American Merchant ships and trying to get Mexico to start a war w the USA
Woodrow Wilson didn’t want any part of WW1. He was happy being a POS and showing racist movies on the White House lawn. Germany doing all that shyt didn’t give him a choice to stay out.
By the time the USA came in, everyone was exhausted and USA just wrapped it up for the Allied Powers. If USA stays out, Germany probably hangs on to beat France and England. Then who knows what happens w Russia.
Maybe they lose. Maybe they win. Maybe they continue to help push the Bolshevik revolution and broker a peace
African Peasant
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Nah. The Kaizer army was better and greater. The invasion of France was bigger than anything Napoleon did in term of manpower, logistics, and firepower.
They basically fought by themselves (Austria Hungary was useless and the Ottomans were busy in the Middle East, except the Dardanelles) against 3 empires and almost won.
I never been that interested in history outside of Ancient history but I’ve been doing more reading. I always assumed Germany was the aggressor because they were in WW2 but, I don’t know brehs. The heir to the throne of Austria gets murdered in broad daylight in Serbia because the Slavs there didn’t like being under Austrian rule. The Austrians want revenge but they can’t get it because Russia is backing Serbia and will level Austria to rocks and pebbles. So Austria turns to Germany for help. It would’ve just been a battle between these four places. But France was allied with Russia. Now it’s a two front war with Germany and Austria boxed in between Russia and France on both sides. Germany tries to go all out on France to get them out the paint first so they can focus on Russia but Britain comes into the fight because Germany threw shots at Belgium in their attempts to fight France. And they got slaughtered.
I’m just trying to imagine this in modern day. If somebody killed Prince William or Prince Harry, the world would be on fire the next day. Why was it cool for them to murder their prince, have Russia protect them from getting dealt with and then have the rest of the world gang on Germany and Austria like they were in the wrong
They were in the wrong because they were arguing over stolen property. Everything that happened during WW1 was about "property rights" in Africa. Germany got short changed on the EU powergrab in Africa and wanted a bigger slice. After multiple failed negotiations, they got an excuse to invade. The war was exclusively to own more African acres, thus more resources.
I'm sounding like a broken record here, but... Germany started the alliance system after the Franco-Prussian War. Bismarck aimed at isolating France by creating as alliance with Austria-Hungary, Italy, and Russia. After the German-Russian alliance lapsed, then you get the Franco-Russian one.
How is it Germany and Austria-Hungary never have a choice for anything they do?
Austria-Hungary could have chosen not to pursue a war against Serbia - a war they weren't able to actually wage, btw - and accept Serbia's acquiesce to their demands. If they did that, Austria would have saved face and Russia wouldn't have mobilized to begin with. But they didn't do that.
Germany could have reigned Austria in, but decided to declare war against the Entente instead. And then escalated it further by invading Belgium, a neutral country, knowing the UK had warned them not to.
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African Peasant
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I agree Austria Hungary could and should have chilled. But German and Austrian Hungarians extremists pushed them to do it. But you can say the same thing about Russia. They could have chosen to not mobilize. But Russian extremists and French pushed them to do it.
