Honest Q - What's the deal with Gen Z BW?

[International Playa]

They listening to too many relationship podcasts

 

[Unbothered]

Gen z women are pretty cold with men in general(excluding the ones their attracted to). Black women are just more extreme with it because our community has people like that chubby negro on the first page that excuses & waives off their behavior.

If I may ask, who exactly are you talking to?

I think it's just cowardly to talk behind a man's back, it shows no heart or courage. Rather than intellectually challenge a view, you do what a weak man does, and talk behind his back.

Yet, this other man is supposed to look at you and take your views seriously, when, unlike him, you don't have the maturity to have an honest conversation, let alone to be able to face yourself and self-reflect, because that requires taking accountability, responsibility, but also humility in acknowledging the actions you've made in your lifetime that's not only affected you but those around to think less of you characteristically as a person, and as a man.

Why should a grown woman, let alone a grown man such as himself take many of you seriously? A lot of you might be men, in regards to age, but deep down inside, many of you are just little boys suffering from internal issues of low self-esteem, doubt, and uncertainty as it relates to your own existence.

Hypothetically speaking, I've once made a statement on here about how it's easier for a man to get big and bad, criticizing and getting up in a woman's face, telling her she needs to be/do “this and that” about herself, cause you don't fear her, physically speaking.

However, it takes balls to get up in a man's face to him about himself because of potential fear of physical retaliation, I envision this is why many on here are “crickets” whenever the conversation is about confronting young or even older men and pushing them to be better. Sadly a bunch of y'all are just cowards, afraid of your own young brothas, ain't got no balls.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Well, from these younger Gen Z Black women's perspective and criticisms, it's coming from their experiences dealing with their counterparts; Gen Z Black men.

There's a reason behind the disgruntled feelings, some of it romance, some of it expectations, some of it is Black men their age not performing or excelling in certain fields of life (educationally and economically), making bad life choices (street life, gang activity, sitting in jail wasting away), among other things that's added to the apathetic attitudes towards men of her generation.

I believe that a woman's happiness and anger can sometimes be a reflection of how the men in her life treat her, she's not just mad for no reason, there's always a reason.

Look, this is a site dominated by men so we're gonna make excuses and/or downplay certain things in our favor or avoid specific topics altogether but I must say, when will some of you, particularly those of you extra critical about the state Black women, apply those same criticisms suggestive attitudes, towards your younger brothas who need guidance and the push to become better versions of themselves not just for the women and children but for their sake because they owe it to themselves.

We're extra critical about the state of Black women and enforcing our beliefs and opinions on what they should do (in our eyes) to become better women but where's this concern for the younger men in our communities to be better, this whole “who cares, let men be men, it's not up to us as men to be better but, it's up to the women to choose, and decide better” is problematic because we're avoiding accountabilities and responsibilities that we have for our community especially as it relates to the younger men who need us to be better for them.

So if Black men are c00ns, is it Black women's fault too?

What a patriarchal way of thinking

You just made me a feminist

 

[jadillac]

Seeing all these threads where young bw are denigrating black men on social media with hundreds of thousands of likes has me feeling a type of way. I know not all black women are like this. In fact most of my experiences with black women are generally positive. However, it kind of dawned on me that most of these positive experiences are with black women my age or older. The energy a lot of gen z bw give off is just off. There is no sense of solidarity. None of that brother/sister comradery you get with older generations. It saddens me that things are like this now.

Has social media really cooked so many of our people's minds? It isn't just a bw thing either. I feel like this generation is off in general. The state of the culture feels off. Am I tripping or do I need to take my ass outside more?

Someone needs to make videos countering these.

Nobody seems to be trying. So therefore these youngsters are only seeing 1 side of things, which is largely exaggerated IMO.

I'd be interested to see how things are on an HBCU campus between the young Black students with promise.

I bet it's not what is being pushed by these bitter bird females on the internet.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Someone needs to make videos countering these.

Nobody seems to be trying. So therefore these youngsters are only seeing 1 side of things, which is largely exaggerated IMO.

I'd be interested to see how things are on an HBCU campus between the young Black students with promise.

I bet it's not what is being pushed by these bitter bird females on the internet.

RenyTure, eihtbeezy and DrTJC on twitter

 

[Burned Verses]

If I may ask, who exactly are you talking to?

I think it's just cowardly to talk behind a man's back, it shows no heart or courage. Rather than intellectually challenge a view, you do what a weak man does, and talk behind his back.

Yet, this other man is supposed to look at you and take your views seriously, when, unlike him, you don't have the maturity to have an honest conversation, let alone to be able to face yourself and self-reflect, because that requires taking accountability, responsibility, but also humility in acknowledging the actions you've made in your lifetime that's not only affected you but those around to think less of you characteristically as a person, and as a man.

Why should a grown woman, let alone a grown man such as himself take many of you seriously? A lot of you might be men, in regards to age, but deep down inside, many of you are just little boys suffering from internal issues of low self-esteem, doubt, and uncertainty as it relates to your own existence.

Hypothetically speaking, I've once made a statement on here about how it's easier for a man to get big and bad, criticizing and getting up in a woman's face, telling her she needs to be/do “this and that” about herself, cause you don't fear her, physically speaking.

However, it takes balls to get up in a man's face to him about himself because of potential fear of physical retaliation, I envision this is why many on here are “crickets” whenever the conversation is about confronting young or even older men and pushing them to be better. Sadly a bunch of y'all are just cowards, afraid of your own young brothas, ain't got no balls.

My guy, I do IT in prisons, usually by myself. I promise you any interaction I have on a dying Internet forum pales in comparison to what I deal with on a daily basis.

The reason why I don’t quote you & a lot of other posters on here is because yall are sanctimonious, uninteresting people that simply aren’t worth my time

Now excuse me while I watch my k drama

 

[BeeCityRoller]

Everything is all out in the open and there aren't guardrails like there were 30-40 years ago. Due to economic conditions (arrested development) and social medias vicegrip on the attention of young people they feed into even more of the negativity. While older black parents (or single mothers specifically) may have been lukewarm Christians that didn't set their sons up for success, most didn't go out of their way to make them fail and would try to put them on in academia or corporate america if they had the ability.

Now the implication that black men being knocked down a peg - incercaration, bankruptcy, making less money, obtaining education/homeownership at a lower rate at any given time = black women winning. Of course, thats not the case, because the same white media that propped them up is scrapping their scholarship/management opportunities/financial assistance carveouts without pushback towards the Trump Administration

I don't think its fair to say its just black women. Young Gen Z black men are plenty rampant with the "If it ain't snowing I ain't going, snowbunny heaven" talking points and overdosing on manosphere talking points. I've seen the cherrypicked instances where a white man kills his black female significant other, and it gets chalked up by the black manosphere and Gen-Z tiktok as "she thought divesting would be better" or something similar, even if she made no videos/tweets of the sort criticizing black men.

Even on this forum, we had criticisicm of black women in the early/mid-2010's (and still do), but we matured to the situation we were dealt as time went on in our 30's/40's. Not sure if we are going to see that with Gen-Z.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Well, from these younger Gen Z Black women's perspective and criticisms, it's coming from their experiences dealing with their counterparts; Gen Z Black men.

There's a reason behind the disgruntled feelings, some of it romance, some of it expectations, some of it is Black men their age not performing or excelling in certain fields of life (educationally and economically), making bad life choices (street life, gang activity, sitting in jail wasting away), among other things that's added to the apathetic attitudes towards men of her generation.

I believe that a woman's happiness and anger can sometimes be a reflection of how the men in her life treat her, she's not just mad for no reason, there's always a reason.

Look, this is a site dominated by men so we're gonna make excuses and/or downplay certain things in our favor or avoid specific topics altogether but I must say, when will some of you, particularly those of you extra critical about the state Black women, apply those same criticisms suggestive attitudes, towards your younger brothas who need guidance and the push to become better versions of themselves not just for the women and children but for their sake because they owe it to themselves.

We're extra critical about the state of Black women and enforcing our beliefs and opinions on what they should do (in our eyes) to become better women but where's this concern for the younger men in our communities to be better, this whole “who cares, let men be men, it's not up to us as men to be better but, it's up to the women to choose, and decide better” is problematic because we're avoiding accountabilities and responsibilities that we have for our community especially as it relates to the younger men who need us to be better for them.

these chicks don't talk to men nor have men in their families lol WTF are you nikkas talking about

 

[KGlock]

They're cooked. I genuinely may only mess with fellow Millennial women or the generation after gen zs and skip fking with gen z chicks altogether as i age. They've adopted almost every negative trait the millennial women got programmed into and their only redeeming trait is their youth/beauty. Them broads in general online and offline are insufferable and flat out weird. Feel bad for you young brehs

 

[PartyHeart]

Those who are a little older, 30s maybe early 40s, and also willing to be honest and transparent, are not only not surprised by this, but also understand it.

There have been at least two decades of pretty relentless, black woman bashing online. Even more recently, you have Kevin Samuels, who used race science against black women, as the lauded superhero of many black men. Of course there was going to be a response. Of course there was.

 

[Uachet]

Those who are a little older, 30s maybe early 40s, and also willing to be honest and transparent, are not only not surprised by this, but also understand it.

There have been at least two decades of pretty relentless, black woman bashing online. Even more recently, you have Kevin Samuels, who used race science against black women, as the lauded superhero of many black men. Of course there was going to be a response. Of course there was.

True, True.

You did not go far enough back though. If you had, you would know there were also 30 years before that of daytime talk shows that were pretty relentless in attacking Black men. By the time the Internet came around, the flood gates opened to a lot of those years of verbal assualts and disparaging of Black men to boomerang into now Black men having access to a media source that allowed them to attack back. Black men did not have the power to respond back when daily talk shows were the big form of watched media.

Go back farther than that, and you would see the negative depiction of Black women in many Black exploitation movies. Movies that had the men as Pimps and the women as Whores.

You are seeing years of gender attack dynamics happening in a circle. It is participated in by both sexes and so both sexes are responsible for the problem.

 

[PartyHeart]

True, True.

You did not go far enough back though. If you had, you would know there were also 30 years before that of daytime talk shows that were pretty relentless in attacking Black men. By the time the Internet came around, the flood gates opened to a lot of those years of verbal assualts and disparaging of Black men to boomerang into now Black men having access to a media source that allowed them to attack back. Black men did not have the power to respond back when daily talk shows were the big form of watched media.

Go back farther than that, and you would see the negative depiction of Black women in many Black exploitation movies. Movies that had the men as Pimps and the women as Whores.

You are seeing years of gender attack dynamics happening in a circle. It is participated in by both sexes and so both sexes are responsible for the problem.

What do you think is the solution?

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Those who are a little older, 30s maybe early 40s, and also willing to be honest and transparent, are not only not surprised by this, but also understand it.

There have been at least two decades of pretty relentless, black woman bashing online. Even more recently, you have Kevin Samuels, who used race science against black women, as the lauded superhero of many black men. Of course there was going to be a response. Of course there was.

I FEEL like the Black men bashing came before that

You even had shyt in the 90s like BMW, Black men working

But both are bad

 

[Uachet]

What do you think is the solution?

There is no solution. Ignorant people will continue to be born, reproduce, and create the next generation of ignorant people. So there is no over all solution for this, but there is a personal solution you can enact for yourself and your family. You can choose your mate well through veting, listening, and being perceptive. You can raise your children well together. And your children continue a cycle of living lives that are rejections of the ignorance that is broadcasted in media.

That solution is the one my family has taken, and there are many others who have taken this path in our community. The real truth about the situation is that the loud ignorance being broadcasted is not the totality of our people, it is not the totality of our culture. So you can choose to live better, surround yourself with better, and have a positive self-image and image of our people. For me and mine, the alternative is not acceptable.

 

[cyndaquil]

Spoiler: TLR do you want the truth

The truth is that they need dikk and these Gen Z’ers are too busy beating their meat to understand that …

Your women need to be dikked down Gen Z brehs that makes them act right …

At least for a little bit



Silent Gen
Boomers
Gen X
Millennials

All understood this …

breh I read this dumbass post then looked at the username and I was surprised
You're a better poster than this breh...