Honest Q - What's the deal with Gen Z BW?

[Voice of Reason]

It's mostly non-FBA tether women spewing that BS. They need to be deported

 

[Savvir]

But are gen z women actually dating?

are they sexually active? yes... yes, at a higher rate than the gens before

are they going out on dates? yes... at a higher rate than gens before

are they in long-term relationships? yes...but at a much lower rate than gens before

 

[feelosofer]

What changed in the last 20+ years?

I went to racially diverse schools with lots of Blacks, whites and Latinos but the teachers were mostly white women between ages 25 and 55.

"Girl Power" was a thing back then and boys....especially Black & Latino, got in trouble more frequently just for existing. We knew there were challenges but we also knew how to navigate. What opportunities are Gen Z missing that Xers/Millenials had?

I'm talking about young Black men specifically. What's stopping our young brehs NOW that wasn't stopping them in 1994 or 2004?

That's 20-30 years ago.

As someone who has children in that age range. A shyt load changed. If you're a millenial you are the last generation that had some time without social media. Gen Z came to age in the internet era. There are less opportunities for these young men than there were 20-30 years. This is the first generation where the majority of them will never be able to buy a home, the middle class is basically evaporated and women only want the top earners. They are bombarded with messaging telling them they aren't shyt and it's non stop. These boys are have now 2 maybe 3 generations of single moms. It's a mess. much heavier focus on LGBTQ. I could go on but no these kids are cooked if they don't come from a decent home with both parents.

 

[Shadow King]

I FEEL like the Black men bashing came before that

You even had shyt in the 90s like BMW, Black men working

But both are bad

It isn't a feeling, it has been. "Black men ain't shìt" been around as long as I can remember which means before I was here. This is what the "oh but it's us too" responses miss. This is the same group that's been giving the "see what you get" towards black athletes and entertainers who get rape allegations with non-black (white) women for 20 something years. The same group that called to boycott Birth of a Nation for an accusation Nate Parker was found innocent of from the 90s...in 2014

What changed in the last 20+ years?

I went to racially diverse schools with lots of Blacks, whites and Latinos but the teachers were mostly white women between ages 25 and 55.

"Girl Power" was a thing back then and boys....especially Black & Latino, got in trouble more frequently just for existing. We knew there were challenges but we also knew how to navigate. What opportunities are Gen Z missing that Xers/Millenials had?

I'm talking about young Black men specifically. What's stopping our young brehs NOW that wasn't stopping them in 1994 or 2004?

Socioeconomic mobility is far more limited with COL.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

It isn't a feeling, it has been. "Black men ain't shìt" been around as long as I can remember which means before I was here. This is what the "oh but it's us too" responses miss. This is the same group that's been giving the "see what you get" towards black athletes and entertainers who get rape allegations with non-black (white) women for 20 something years. The same group that called to boycott Birth of a Nation for an accusation Nate Parker was found innocent of from the 90s...in 2014

Socioeconomic mobility is far more limited with COL.

For sure

I dont think the answer is to shyt on Black women just to shyt on them, like what Kevin Samuels did

But we're in complete agreement that it's acceptable to do it towards Black Men, and other Black men won't even speak out

Times seem to be changing tho

Unfortunate that it has to come at a time where misogyny is also on the rise, because any critique will be more easier grouped in with that

 

[K.O.N.Y]

What do you think is the solution?

speaking for black americans only-

the lineage based mindset installment(FBA/ADOS)

there's zero room for gender wars underneath that

 

[Fresh]

The women that don’t hate black men for some reason stay quiet

THIS

the men can only do so much, women who are cool need to check the women that are loud and wrong A LOT more

check em, challenge their opinions, that's what women who are level headed and don't hate their men should do to angry women

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

are they sexually active? yes... yes, at a higher rate than the gens before

are they going out on dates? yes... at a higher rate than gens before

are they in long-term relationships? yes...but at a much lower rate than gens before

So the bitter baby mommas shouldn't really be a problem right? What i mean by that is once gen z women enter the real world they realize bitter women were wrong.

 

[Savvir]

So the bitter baby mommas shouldn't really be a problem right? What i mean by that is once gen z women enter the real world they realize bitter women were wrong.

so you’re saying parents dont have an impact on how adults think and perceive the world?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Hard to discuss without acknowledging the issues young people are having in general. They don't read, they aren't intellectually curious, they're broke, and they're angry. We're not there yet but we're approaching a point where the intellectual gains women have made (education, communication, etc) are heavily declining to a point they mirror the devolution of boys/men. That's why so much shyt from women is more masculine - or an imitation of masculinity. That being said there is still a very large contingent of young women who are going to college, being social, valuing disposable income (travel, food, etc) at much higher rates than men are. Especially young white and black men. So there's a massive disconnect between their skill level and that of male peers their age. Which is why it's becoming more acceptable to date older/younger people after years of weird propaganda against it. If you're a smart chick and all the dudes your age and borderline cavemen who can't have the most basic conversations....what can you do but pursue older (successful) dudes.

This isn't sustainable though. Sooner or later the stupidity is gonna zap the college interests of young women and we'll get both sides being the same: no motivation, not reading, antisocial behavior traits, over reliance on AI, etc. That's the future unless we see massive societal change that I don't see on the horizon tbh. So to be perfectly honest you might want to cherish this crop of gen z chicks because it only gets worse from here lmao. Get your hustle on, attain some comfort, and then find a young chick you can mesh with. Because it's game over real soon.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Enter the importance of FBA/ADOS

All the result of black americans being culturally aloof and baseless

So the group diverges into socio-cultural nihilism. And there goes the chaos

Combination of that and systemic white supremacy. Thats it..........that's the answer

Any other explanation is just babble

Yea coming back in. Seeing overly long post saying nothing of culture

Yea negros love babbling. Its like a LALA land for many folks

 

[HarlemHottie]

THIS

the men can only do so much, women who are cool need to check the women that are loud and wrong A LOT more

check em, challenge their opinions, that's what women who are level headed and don't hate their men should do to angry women

You want us to raise your sons too?

Cant bytch about the matriarchy and then beg bw to lead the community.

My household is in order bc my man is in order. I'm supposed to take time away from enriching our life and sucking his dikk to do what, exactly? To herd some recalcitrant bytches into the arms of nikkas who can't take control? Nah.

There's a reason why KS rose so quick, bc women- for whatever reason- sought him out. They don't seek out women who check them, which is why they sm be so dry. It's like yall don't even know us.

 

[Apollo Creed]

You want us to raise your sons too?

Cant bytch about the matriarchy and then beg bw to lead the community.

My household is in order bc my man is in order. I'm supposed to take time away from enriching our life and sucking his dikk to do what, exactly? To herd some recalcitrant bytches into the arms of nikkas who can't take control? Nah.

There's a reason why KS rose so quick, bc women- for whatever reason- sought him out. They don't seek out women who check them, which is why they sm be so dry. It's like yall don't even know us.

this is disingenuous, and I like you as a poster. In Most Functional societies the elder women have always groomed the younger women to be able to contribute to society. Deflecting everything to "what a man need to do" is literally gynocracy and why this shyt is in shambles. It's part of the whole trad Con farce in that the men doesn't realize he is being manipulate to be a slave under the false sense of leadership. All a man can do is talk, any force is illegal and deemed un ethical, so what does talking do when nobody listens?

This is why I say men with sense need to start the fukk over....

 

[HarlemHottie]

In Most Functional societies the elder women have always groomed the younger women to be able to contribute to society. Deflecting everything to "what a man need to do" is literally gynocracy and why this shyt is in shambles.

And that's where you fukked up. We are decidedly NOT functional, so none of those rules apply (yet). Older women can lead younger women only when society is set up to encourage such mentorship, bc the younger women can clearly see the benefit. We have no such thing. Bm barely want to marry the good ones anymore.

And no, asking men to lead is not gynocracy. It's literally the opposite. Please stop the foolishness. Men control women with economics and Trump, crazy and evil as he is, just gave yall an opening. Let's see if yall take it.

 

[jilla82]

Well, from these younger Gen Z Black women's perspective and criticisms, it's coming from their experiences dealing with their counterparts; Gen Z Black men.

There's a reason behind the disgruntled feelings, some of it romance, some of it expectations, some of it is Black men their age not performing or excelling in certain fields of life (educationally and economically), making bad life choices (street life, gang activity, sitting in jail wasting away), among other things that's added to the apathetic attitudes towards men of her generation.

I believe that a woman's happiness and anger can sometimes be a reflection of how the men in her life treat her, she's not just mad for no reason, there's always a reason.

Look, this is a site dominated by men so we're gonna make excuses and/or downplay certain things in our favor or avoid specific topics altogether but I must say, when will some of you, particularly those of you extra critical about the state Black women, apply those same criticisms suggestive attitudes, towards your younger brothas who need guidance and the push to become better versions of themselves not just for the women and children but for their sake because they owe it to themselves.

We're extra critical about the state of Black women and enforcing our beliefs and opinions on what they should do (in our eyes) to become better women but where's this concern for the younger men in our communities to be better, this whole “who cares, let men be men, it's not up to us as men to be better but, it's up to the women to choose, and decide better” is problematic because we're avoiding accountabilities and responsibilities that we have for our community especially as it relates to the younger men who need us to be better for them.

this.

I see waaaaayyyy too many lost brothas on the street doing nothing to not at least understand where some of these women are coming from.

people (regardless of what group they're in) would rather point the finger at other people instead of themselves