Hopefully the midrange game returns next season

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This is them analytic nerds. The Rockets spent all of that money making the perfect analytic based team and they stay losing. It's hilarious to see.
 
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But players are smarter and more skilled today:mjlol:

Players are retarded today

Breh talking about 33% avg from 3...yea maybe in the regular season when teams aren't prepping for you like in the playoffs.

Playoff time comes...defense tightens, pressure increases and now your nerves tighten up too and so does your shot. Now that 33% regular season avg is now 15-25% in the playoffs and now you're sitting at home watching stefon curry go to his 4th straight finals because you didn't want to make a layup.

Let analytics ruin your life, brehs
 

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7 for 44.

All that math has to go out the window, and common sense has to kick in at some point. There's no justifying missing 37 threes.


7 for 44:ohhh:


That’s a nice 21 points..... add a few free throws and you can have an ALLSTAR career averaging about 25ppg:lolbron:


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What we have seen here brehs, is ugly ass basketball :hhh:.Looks like a middle school game, just players shooting random 3s with no movement, and too stubborn to do anything else

fukk this analytics shyt. Rockets showed tonight how ugly it looks when those shots aint falling. Gotta admit the Celtics and Cavs did the same thing in game 7


I wanna see movement, I wanna see cuts, I wanna see passes out of a post up, the elbow jumper, free throw line jumper after a rebound, etc


I don't wanna hear no dumbass analytic nerds say anything from their cubicles again :russ:

LaMelo Ball would lowkey eat in today's NBA :mjlol:
 
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Everything is trends. The game will swing back when analytics find that eight-foot angled jumpers have a high conversion rate and low usage or some shyt and then some player comes along and can shoot a sweet bank shot from that range like Scottie Pippen along with his repertoire of dunks and threes. This too shall pass.
 

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I've never been completely on board with the 3s are better than 2s shyt. Now don't get me wrong, an open 3 makes way more sense than a contested 20 footer. However, a solid mid-range game makes you so much harder to guard and will open up your game in every area.

And like Chicago said, missing so many more 3s creates a lot of empty possessions. In fact, up until the last 2 years where teams have been shooting so ridiculously well that none of it matters, offensive efficiency was actually down this era compared to previous years despite the shooting numbers being historic, because of the drop off in offensive rebounds and free throws, and the higher amount of empty possessions requiring teams to take better care of the ball than normal.

You can't blame the analytics themselves, but people being myopic about them.
 

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Unless you're one of the elite superstars that needs it because you can handle the ball so much ala CP3, Kobe. Then the midrange should not really be a regular shot for you. I will say if Harden had focused on the mid range instead shooting so much contested threes, he would probably be going to the finals right now. But Harden is a bum so who cares.
 

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I've never been completely on board with the 3s are better than 2s shyt. Now don't get me wrong, an open 3 makes way more sense than a contested 20 footer. However, a solid mid-range game makes you so much harder to guard and will open up your game in every area.

And like Chicago said, missing so many more 3s creates a lot of empty possessions. In fact, up until the last 2 years where teams have been shooting so ridiculously well that none of it matters, offensive efficiency was actually down this era compared to previous years despite the shooting numbers being historic, because of the drop off in offensive rebounds and free throws, and the higher amount of empty possessions requiring teams to take better care of the ball than normal.

You can't blame the analytics themselves, but people being myopic about them.

The 2017-2018 was the best offensive season of all time...
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/3/21/17144496/nba-statistics-history-offense-3-pointers
This season, all 30 NBA teams have combined to average 106.4 points per game, nearly a full point better than last year’s 105.6 average. The NBA hasn’t averaged that many since the 1989-90 season, when a typical scoring output was 107 points.

Pace, or the average number of possessions per game, has skied to 97.3 this season. That’s the highest since the 1990-91 season. Efficiency, meanwhile, has never been higher: the league’s 52.2 effective field goal percentage this season will set a league record, and the average of 108.7 points scored per 100 possessions is the second-highest ever recorded. The first happened last season, when teams averaged 108.8 points per 100 possessions.



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People that talk about the midrange game don't understand that the midrange shot is self-created and unassisted.

Majority of 3 pointers are assisted. Unless you are Dame, Steph, Harden, Lebron...you ain't just dribbling and creating a 3 point shot. Your feet are set, you are open and you are take the shot.

Therefore...a 3 point shot is a better quality shot than a midrange jumpshot...

There's nothing shyttier than a player dribbling themselves into a midrange jump shot...which is the reason why good defensive teams scheme to force midrange jumpshots...it is the worst shot in all of basketball.

You not likely to get fouled on the shot, it's an extremely difficult shot, you are most likely not open on the shot unless you get it off a screen, you don't stretch the floor, and it's only worth 2 points.

Might as well take a 3.

The midrange shot is for superstars...players that you give the ball to when you need a bucket.

Offensive rebounds are overrated and doesn't really contribute to wins, teams these days will sell out to defend transition and concede a defensive rebound on a 3 point jumper or a midrange jumper.

I mean...the only time you see a team go for offensive rebounds these days might be in the playoffs later on in the game, to see if they can get an extra possession.
 

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I like pace and space and all the 3's, and I still have not seen a good argument as to why the mid-range should come back in vogue. It is still the most inefficient shot in basketball. The last couple of games represent outliers and not a showcasing of what's prevalent, but then again this is the same board that believes the top of the key pick and roll is ruining the NBA because that's all they see while playing 2K. :hubie:
 

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The 2017-2018 was the best offensive season of all time...
This is the best offensive season in NBA history. Really
This season, all 30 NBA teams have combined to average 106.4 points per game, nearly a full point better than last year’s 105.6 average. The NBA hasn’t averaged that many since the 1989-90 season, when a typical scoring output was 107 points.

Pace, or the average number of possessions per game, has skied to 97.3 this season. That’s the highest since the 1990-91 season. Efficiency, meanwhile, has never been higher: the league’s 52.2 effective field goal percentage this season will set a league record, and the average of 108.7 points scored per 100 possessions is the second-highest ever recorded. The first happened last season, when teams averaged 108.8 points per 100 possessions.



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People that talk about the midrange game don't understand that the midrange shot is self-created and unassisted.

Majority of 3 pointers are assisted. Unless you are Dame, Steph, Harden, Lebron...you ain't just dribbling and creating a 3 point shot. Your feet are set, you are open and you are take the shot.

Therefore...a 3 point shot is a better quality shot than a midrange jumpshot...

There's nothing shyttier than a player dribbling themselves into a midrange jump shot...which is the reason why good defensive teams scheme to force midrange jumpshots...it is the worst shot in all of basketball.

You not likely to get fouled on the shot, it's an extremely difficult shot, you are most likely not open on the shot unless you get it off a screen, you don't stretch the floor, and it's only worth 2 points.

Might as well take a 3.

The midrange shot is for superstars...players that you give the ball to when you need a bucket.

Offensive rebounds are overrated and doesn't really contribute to wins, teams these days will sell out to defend transition and concede a defensive rebound on a 3 point jumper or a midrange jumper.

I mean...the only time you see a team go for offensive rebounds these days might be in the playoffs later on in the game, to see if they can get an extra possession.
That's why I said up until these last two seasons where the shooting has been so good that it doesn't matter
 
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I've never been completely on board with the 3s are better than 2s shyt. Now don't get me wrong, an open 3 makes way more sense than a contested 20 footer. However, a solid mid-range game makes you so much harder to guard and will open up your game in every area.

And like Chicago said, missing so many more 3s creates a lot of empty possessions. In fact, up until the last 2 years where teams have been shooting so ridiculously well that none of it matters, offensive efficiency was actually down this era compared to previous years despite the shooting numbers being historic, because of the drop off in offensive rebounds and free throws, and the higher amount of empty possessions requiring teams to take better care of the ball than normal.

You can't blame the analytics themselves, but people being myopic about them.

Exactly. The math isn't bad. The analysis of math is bad.
 
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