Hopefully the midrange game returns next season

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Missing 37 threes is inexcusable.

A bunch of those three point shots came off kickouts where the player at least had a foul ready to be drawn on them before passing. Analytics would tell you that's stupid too.

Definitely. It's crazy how effective 5 out can be, you have to rotate over so late half the time that you can't contest the rim without fouling AND you'll give up an open 3 if you rotate early. Warriors should find a way to invest in better rim protection if they don't trust McGee
 

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Missing 37 threes is inexcusable.

A bunch of those three point shots came off kickouts where the player at least had a foul ready to be drawn on them before passing. Analytics would tell you that's stupid too.

I couldn't have said this better myself. The stat nerds & analytics geeks don't understand this.

You can’t go thru shyt that’s based off feeling and substitute it to act like a robot. All this analytics shyt is killing the game. If ur missing 3’s settle for 2’s and ft’s To get ur shot back, then go back to the 3’s.
 
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nikka shut up

If Houston was shooting 2s instead of 3s they would be in the finals right now
if you wanna play the 'what if' dumb game, if they were shooting 2s instead of 3s they probably wouldnt make it to the conference finals altogether. harden's and cp3s threes are a huge part of their arsenal.
 

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not unless you make the midrange shots worth 3 pts as well

if youre a volume shooter and shoot 50% from the 2 youre getting the same amount of points as if youre shooting 33% from the 3...you gotta understand that math doesnt lie...and making 3s at 33% if you have a shot is generally easier than shooting 50% from the midrange

NO

THIS IS STUPID NEVER PLAYED BALL shyt.

ALL THOSE MISSED SHOTS
DONT ALLOW YOU TO SET UP YOUR DEFENSE
AND MAY LEAD TO TRANSITION BUCKETS AT THE OTHER END.

MAKING 50/100 TWOS
VS
MAKING 33/100 THREES

THATS 17 EXTRA TIMES
THE OPPOSING TEAM
HAD TO TAKE THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS.

17 EXTRA TIMES YOU KEPT MOMENTUM
BY SCORING A BUCKET...

17 EXTRA TIMES YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED A SCORING RUN/DROUGHT.
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On top of that they now preach if you're going to shoot a 2, drive to the basket, and then wonder why these guys have no legs down the stretch.

It's crazy.
 

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NO

THIS IS STUPID NEVER PLAYED BALL shyt.

ALL THOSE MISSED SHOTS
DONT ALLOW YOU TO SET UP YOUR DEFENSE
AND MAY LEAD TO TRANSITION BUCKETS AT THE OTHER END.

:devil:
:evil:

sure, thats actually the first good argument brought up aside from the obvious shyt that is common sense (3s being worth more than 2s doesnt mean you have to jack them up in any situation- thats just dumb)

and yet the bolded...Warriors who are great at transition buckets didnt get that many in transition against the rockets, actually have had far fewer than usual against them. jacking up a bad 3 vs a bad 2, 3 is worth more :manny:
 

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sure, thats actually the first good argument brought up aside from the obvious shyt that is common sense (3s being worth more than 2s doesnt mean you have to jack them up in any situation- thats just dumb)

and yet the bolded...Warriors who are great at transition buckets didnt get that many in transition against the rockets, actually have had far fewer than usual against them. jacking up a bad 3 vs a bad 2, 3 is worth more :manny:

The problem with this analysis is that it assumes the Rockets missing 27 threes was just a fluke, random occurrence. You are dealing with humans, not a deck or cards or dice. The players may be fatigued due to defensive efforts, may be rushing their fundamentals because they are shook, whatever. In that situation, it pays to switch up, go for some closer shots, try to set up the offense to get a layup or a post opportunity to slow the game down and give your team confidence. Shooting more threes makes sense, but unless you have Warriors level shooters (and no one else does) having an effective backup plan is key
 

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it might..the switching d is catching up.. but I think post play will come back first..
 

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not unless you make the midrange shots worth 3 pts as well

if youre a volume shooter and shoot 50% from the 2 youre getting the same amount of points as if youre shooting 33% from the 3...you gotta understand that math doesnt lie...and making 3s at 33% if you have a shot is generally easier than shooting 50% from the midrange
Spoken like a true stat geek who’s never played. What you’re not taking into account is the effect of missing 67% of your shots has on your defense and the other team’s offense. Missing that many shots from 3 not only prevents you from getting in any kind of rhythm offensively, it also undoubtedly leads to multiple fast break opportunities for your opponent. Missed 3s often lead to long rebounds which often turn into run-outs for the other team.

Besides, this is about teams continuing to jack up 3s even when they aren’t falling anywhere near 33% even. The rockets went 7-44 from 3 last night while the Cavs went 9-35 and the Celtics went 7-39 the night before. It’s one thing to feature the 3point shot, but it’s another to be so reliant on the 3 that you die by it even when it obviously isn’t falling. These teams have been exposed as being 1-dimensional. They kept taking the 3s because they couldn’t do anything else. If you can guard the 3 point line OR one of these teams is having a bad shooting night you can beat these teams easily. This is trash basketball and there’s no defending it.
 

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Both game 7's were some infuriating ball to watch from a neutral fan perspective, being a fan of these teams has to be nauseating

Hakeem had to have been :mindblown: in his seat yesterday. Capella was feasting on the paint, then they reduced him to "just D up and go after our bricks". GS could have been put away in the 3rd with smart buckets, drawn fouls and without a single 3 being taken

I tried, but this new NBA ain't for me
 
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