#HotTake...how Rakim a GOAT but go damn near two decades with NOBODY checking for him??

Bolzmark

Superstar
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
8,514
Reputation
1,331
Daps
27,979
Reppin
ATL
Another thing you have to consider is the age of fans. Think about it like this, a fully grown 21 year old man missed ALL of Rakim's heyday. They can go back and listen to it but they were not around for the environment hip hop had created and how much Ra meant to it. So it might be hard for them to relate and consider him the GOAT.
 

Inspect Her Deck

Skins of all colours come together as brothers
Joined
Dec 14, 2015
Messages
8,911
Reputation
1,546
Daps
19,947
Rakim is a GOAT because he has 3 classic albums and only 1 out of his 7 albums can be considered average, and even that album is underrated (Seventh Seal). The rest range from dope to exceptional.

Plus he changed the game lyrically.

I don't think he's THE GOAT but definitely a contender for sure. I just wish he released more often, and especially in the mid-90's, but by the time he returned he was a little out of touch.
 

mobbinfms

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Aug 10, 2012
Messages
37,418
Reputation
15,465
Daps
93,955
Reppin
TPC
And there's one thing nobody here has mentioned- even in his absence, his influence still loomed... and his lyrics and songs have been name checked by everybody from Nas to Master P to Jay to Eminem to Lil' Kim to Snoop to MOP to whoever. nikkas remade his shyt, sampled his shyt, quoted his shyt... but we askin' how he's a G.O.A.T??
You know how I know this is true? I didn't really get put on to Rakim until 97. I was 11-12 when Don't Sweat The Technique and Juice dropped and I loved those songs, but I didn't cop the album. Then I get the two disc 18th Letter with the Greatest Hits and it was like :ohhh:because I'd heard half of these lines already from other rappers :wow:
 

SirBiatch

Prince of Persia. Stalked for daps
Joined
Feb 18, 2015
Messages
25,121
Reputation
-20,636
Daps
39,901
I don't know man, Rakim just sounds so goldy to me over Primo and PR beats. I've never once thought that he sounded stiff or anything remotely related to that. For me, Rakim's delivery/flow whatever you want to call it, is one of his strongest elements :yeshrug:

I agree in some ways but I think the 'godliness' is why Nas superseded him. Nas said that, on Illmatic, he wanted to sound vulnerable and bulletproof all at the same time. and he actually pulled it off. So one hand, you listen to Nas and you're like: "whoa. godly" But on the other hand, you think "Human. has a story. like me."

Rakim is a 2D rapper in a hip hop world that went 3D.
 

mobbinfms

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Aug 10, 2012
Messages
37,418
Reputation
15,465
Daps
93,955
Reppin
TPC
I agree in some ways but I think the 'godliness' is why Nas superseded him. Nas said that, on Illmatic, he wanted to sound vulnerable and bulletproof all at the same time. and he actually pulled it off. So one hand, you listen to Nas and you're like: "whoa. godly" But on the other hand, you think "Human. has a story. like me."

Rakim is a 2D rapper in a hip hop world that went 3D.
I meant godly just in that he was killing those beats. I agree that he did have this mystique about him and didn't talk much about his own experiences.
 

bigbadbossup2012

Biggest baddest boss
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
21,594
Reputation
-5,991
Daps
23,048
Dude...if u dont know that the other 3 albums with Eric B have noteworthy songs.....U shouldnt be speaking. If this was 1993 and u said that around the cats around my way...someone would spit on your sneakers.


Didnt Rage against the machine redo Microphone Fiend from the 2nd album??.....If a Rock group like Rage can acknowledge but u cant that means u are the one who is not in the know.

3rd album.... Biggie jacking Mahogany for the track "I got a story to tell".........The scene in House Party when Kid is watching the fat man fuk the girl before being shot at by the fat man....."Run For Cover" starts playing when he jumps over the fence. And that song wasnt even in the soundtrack.


4th album. - Juice...the theme song to the movie that 2pac fanatics all acknowledge.
Wouldn't it been easier to just name the 5 note worthy songs per album? Can you?
 

smokeurobinson

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
22,680
Reputation
4,868
Daps
61,795
Wouldn't it been easier to just name the 5 note worthy songs per album? Can you?


U just quoted 4....

....Dude....I'm from Harlem.....if this was 93 and u were around the cats around my way and u said what u are saying right now ....u would get dismissed and shytted on. Thats how I'm looking at u right now.
 
Top