How A Group Of Black Progressives Derailed Black Progress: Purists vs Pragmatists

[ORDER_66]

no where close.


No one is blaming black people.

This is a black professor talking to black people. We have to be able to have this conversation like adults without you resorting to your 8 year old tantrums.

This article highlights the very tension on this forum.

Purists keep pushing hard left fantasies and pragmatists want people to stop fracturing the party by pretending merely economic collectivism will fix racism and other institutional issues.

hold on. the clinton foundation has stolen millions from Haiti and done nothing to help rebuild haiti at the time, hillary has given secret speeches to wall street lobbyists. I cannot trust Hillary clinton at all...

also why does it feel like people are blaming black people because we did NOT come out and vote??? why not blame 50% of white bytches that voted for trump to get him elected...

 

[Black Hans]

@ that entire article. Just a gay Democrat trying to scare black people into voting Democrat (read Kamala Harris) because his party has been trawling the Internet and noticing a trend of black people aligning with people that say to both parties, especially their establishment candidates.

 

[theworldismine13]

This dude is from South Africa, it might seem off topic but it's not



Black people looking to white liberals is an economic and intellectual dead end

 

[Snoopy Loops]

This dude is from South Africa, it might seem off topic but it's not



Black people looking to white liberals is an economic and intellectual dead end

So, are you a separatist or some pan African? cuz seemingly, the only other option is relying on the Republicans/alt right alliance to get reform that is needed, which could only be gotten in a parallel universe.

At a minimum, the black vote demands criminal justice reform. The talk of socioeconomic mobility is different story. One could say that whichever party is committed to advancing the nation's well being and economic interests should get the vote in that respect. It is evident however, that Republicans just want to deregulate everything, and let the league favorites run up the score board

They are economic darwinists, they believe it's survival of the fittest out there, and only the richest survive. An ideology that would make thinkers of the enlightenment roll in their graves.

At least with white liberals can guilt tripped in helping in the disenfranchised, but these Republicans cats just don't give af.

 

[eastside313]

They tried to talk a good game with prison reform and such. But next time don't attempt to have the same damn people who championed locking niccas up to come round and say oh we sorry 30 years later.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

This dude is from South Africa, it might seem off topic but it's not



Black people looking to white liberals is an economic and intellectual dead end

White liberals and blaming black people for their failures are like this:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This dude is from South Africa, it might seem off topic but it's not



Black people looking to white liberals is an economic and intellectual dead end

who is looking to white liberals?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They tried to talk a good game with prison reform and such. But next time don't attempt to have the same damn people who championed locking niccas up to come round and say oh we sorry 30 years later.

Means to an end

No one told you to be in love with Hillary.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

While I never fell for the "they are the same" talking point. I also didn't vote for Hillary.

Obviously cheeto and hilllary are a different level of scumbag. And trumps presidency has been a joke thus far.

But shyts exactly how I wanted it to play out. Kinda like a blessing in disguise thing.

Hillary wouldn't have done much to move the needle for black/middle class people. She woulda played allot of lip service but ultimately black people and the country as a whole woulda been in the same place at the end of her term.

With trump the fukkery is so acute that big changes are coming. The press are actually doing their job. More people are paying attention to politics and the effects of voting/not voting. After all these years of being told it's the democrats/blacks/Mexicans at fault for the failures of this country. Now we get to see the whitest of white conservatives in full control being utter failures and idiots.

shyt couldn't have played out any better imo.

Hillary woulda just kicked the fan down the road

You're an idiot.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Starts off saying Black Americans aren't to blame for Hillary's loss...proceeds to blame Black Americans.

its not blaming black people

Its a black professor calling out black people who did the "all the same" game

Are you mad cause its in Huffington Post?

Cause you know even if he told you in private its still true.

Y'all gotta take that L.

 

[theworldismine13]

who is looking to white liberals?

Hmm I don't know, maybe the author of the article you posted

And if you are not looking for white liberals why do you care that a white liberal like Hillary lost?

 

[theworldismine13]

Means to an end

No one told you to be in love with Hillary.

What is the end?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hmm I don't know, maybe the author of the article you posted

And if you are not looking for white liberals why do you care that a white liberal like Hillary lost?

??????

I preferred one candidate over the other

Thats what voting is.

 

[theworldismine13]

??????

I preferred one candidate over the other

Thats what voting is.

yeah and she lost, who cares?

 

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its not blaming black people

Its a black professor calling out black people who did the "all the same" game

Are you mad cause its in Huffington Post?

Cause you know even if he told you in private its still true.

Y'all gotta take that L.

BUT THERE IS LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE IN DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES NOW.... One party is outright hostile towards black people and the other party gives us lip service and does nothing to help black people thinking they're votes are in the bag by association...

Both have corruption in the upper echelons... both have corrupt people who take lobbying money... I mean voting for these idiots aint doing shyt for us either way... I aint voting for anyone if you aint about helping us. fukk them both my dude... 3rd party or bust. We need to form our own.