How Can You Expect Someone to Cook and Clean AND Bring in 50% of the Income?

[bcrusaderw]

Do you remember that thread teedot made, a lot of these dudes bring absolutely NOTHING to a relationship but they expect the impossible from women. They won't protect you, won't provide for you, shyt they don't even want to marry you but you're supposed to bend over backwards for them.

The only thing that most of them were bringing was dack, but half of them can't even do that right.

you are just disagreeing to disagree now.... but its cool, you want a submissive man that is inferior to you mentally and financially, so you can walk all over him, and have the security of knowing he is too soft to put his foot down... to each his own.... like I said they make men like that but they are softer than drug store cotton, don't get mad when he isn't able to protect you because he lacks confidence in his self or even the heart to step up to another man..

*edit* "Lol he isn't going to marry that girl. He'll string her along for the free sex, maid, and cooking services, but she's not getting a ring"
I hope you don't think everyman is like this

Why are you taking it to extremes? When a woman wants to be in charge why does it have to be a "walking all over her mate kind of thing"?

 

[Rayzah]

It doesn't make any sense to want a woman to maintain the gender norm role of cooking and cleaning while she has to work and tend to her children. Women could do those things back then because they didn't have to work. But now it's like we have to maintain the gender norm role while men don't. How many men are actually capable of being leaders? Providing for their woman? Taking initiative and protecting his women/children? Then some men have the audacity to say women are gold diggers and women are after their money? But ain't you supposed to be able to provide? That's kind of the norm to want to upgrade yourself because thats the gender norm role they've put on themselves. That's why women are automatically the caregivers of children and given child custody. Because those roles are normal. You can't want women to fulfill their "role" when certain men can't even fulfill theirs.

So, I think like a lot of threads in here, you have people arguing the complete extremes...

NO ONE has an excuse for not knowing how to take care of theirself and their house.
My response was to the I cant cook and im bragging about it, the I want my man to be inferior to me people, the just because you work too, that excuses your responsibility to cook, it doesn't.
I don't expect you to cook 7 days a week, and you shouldn't expect me to either, If I am asking you to split the bills, then I expect you to split the house hold chores too, either I do half and you do half or we take turns doing each... All that "no good aint shyt nikkas yall are talking about are extreme examples lets forget about them and focus on the dudes that do their part. But let me play the "extreme game" I be damned if I work 12 hours and you only work 8, you get home atleast 4 hours before me and I get there and the house is dirty and there is no food, F that..

 

[Elle Driver]

Do you remember that thread teedot made, a lot of these dudes bring absolutely NOTHING to a relationship but they expect the impossible from women. They won't protect you, won't provide for you, shyt they don't even want to marry you but you're supposed to bend over backwards for them.

Same dudes talking that get married brehs complaining about out of wedlock children and single mothers.


And notice I said certain men? There's a lot of men who understand that you can't expect shyt without bringing shyt to the table. But these dudes will have you believing women are entitled.

 

[Rayzah]

The only thing that most of them were bringing was dack, but half of them can't even do that right.

Why are you taking it to extremes? When a woman wants to be in charge why does it have to be a "walking all over her mate kind of thing"?

because that's what it sounds like, but please explain how this unconventional method is better than what is considered the "norm"

 

[Elle Driver]

So, I think like a lot of threads in here, you have people arguing the complete extremes...

NO ONE has an excuse for not knowing how to take care of theirself and their house.
My response was to the I cant cook and im bragging about it, the I want my man to be inferior to me people, the just because you work too, that excuses your responsibility to cook, it doesn't.
I don't expect you to cook 7 days a week, and you shouldn't expect me to either, If I am asking you to split the bills, then I expect you to split the house hold chores too, either I do half and you do half or we take turns doing each... All that "no good aint shyt nikkas yall are talking about are extreme examples lets forget about them and focus on the dudes that do their part. But let me play the "extreme game" I be damned if I work 12 hours and you only work 8, you get home atleast 4 hours before me and I get there and the house is dirty and there is no food, F that..

That's reasonable. But you're being reasonable. You have to understand a portion of men out there really expect their wives (that's if they even believe in the institution of marriage at all) to take care of the home, half the finances, and work. All the while the man just has to work and maybe do handy work around the house. First of all, marriage (as much as I was against it before), is necessary for the black home. But I won't get into that. Both parties need to support each other, if that's splitting the bills and chores, great. If that's her being a stay at home mom (if she's lucky because unfortunately we can no longer rely on one income to survive unless you're a six figure nikka) and you work, that's great. But both parties have to bring something to the table. You can't feel like a woman has to have all of the qualities you want, while you don't fulfill your role as a man either.

 

[Rayzah]

That's reasonable. But you're being reasonable. You have to understand a portion of men out there really expect their wives (that's if they even believe in the institution of marriage at all) to take care of the home, half the finances, and work. All the while the man just has to work and maybe do handy work around the house. First of all, marriage (as much as I was against it before), is necessary for the black home. But I won't get into that. Both parties need to support each other, if that's splitting the bills and chores, great. If that's her being a stay at home mom (if she's lucky because unfortunately we can no longer rely on one income to survive unless you're a six figure nikka) and you work, that's great. But both parties have to bring something to the table. You can't feel like a woman has to have all of the qualities you want, while you don't fulfill your role as a man either.

and to that point, the only reason I was compelled to comment in here, was to say, the same can be said for the woman, and I like how you used the term, "role as a man" because some people here don't like it when you refer to gender roles...

 

[Blackking]

Same dudes talking that get married brehs complaining about out of wedlock children and single mothers.


And notice I said certain men? There's a lot of men who understand that you can't expect shyt without bringing shyt to the table. But these dudes will have you believing women are entitled.

Most women are entitled because the actual work it takes to take care of a real man and a household is .....
A fukking lot.

So women simply feel they can do some and not all..... but there ain't no such thing as half way crooks.

Don't ask him to pay bills , lay good pipe , not lust after every chick younger and tigher than you , and do the man shyt around the house if you aren't willing to make that woman sacrifice and serve as the woman

 

[Rayzah]

Most women are entitled because the actual work it takes to take care of a real man and a household is .....
A fukking lot.

So women simply feel they can do some and not all..... but there ain't no such thing as half way crooks.

Don't ask him to pay bills , lay good pipe , not lust after every chick younger and tigher than you , and do the man shyt around the house if you aren't willing to make that woman sacrifice and serve as the woman

thanks for jumping in, I was about to go crazy in here...

 

[Elle Driver]

Most women are entitled because the actual work it takes to take care of a real man and a household is .....
A fukking lot.

So women simply feel they can do some and not all..... but there ain't no such thing as half way crooks.

Don't ask him to pay bills , lay good pipe , not lust after every chick younger and tigher than you , and do the man shyt around the house if you aren't willing to make that woman sacrifice and serve as the woman

Did you even make an honest woman out of your kids mothers? If not then you're a part of the problem.

Hol up. Wasn't you trying to sponsor your former side piece that was 10 years younger than you? Yeah you def part of the problem.

 

[bcrusaderw]

because that's what it sounds like, but please explain how this unconventional method is better than what is considered the "norm"

It's better for me. I'm not asking you to let your partner lead you; I'm asking that of one male. That's the entire point there are lots of people out there who think like I do, and lots who think like you do.

 

[Blackking]

Did you even make an honest woman out of your kids mothers? If not then you're a part of the problem.

Not my fault if I didn't
They left me and relationships sometimes don't work out.....

BUT they have jobs, businesses , houses that they didn't pay for, they are mentally stable and they are comfortable enough. Masters degree i paid for so when their homegirls try to talk shyt they defend me with nothing neg to say.

They will take care of their future husbands just fine...... because a man
Can't make a woman right mentally , she mostly needs to come to that on their own. Only a confident and righteous woman can bring herself to serve her man..... insecurity and society causes women to become unworthy

 

[Elle Driver]

Not my fault if I didn't
They left me and relationships sometimes don't work out.....

BUT they have jobs, businesses , houses that they didn't pay for, they are mentally stable and they are comfortable enough. Masters degree i paid for so when their homegirls try to talk shyt they defend me with nothing neg to say.

They will take care of their future husbands just fine...... because a man
Can't make a woman right mentally , she mostly needs to come to that on their own. Only a confident and righteous woman can bring herself to serve her man..... insecurity and society causes women to become unworthy

Do you have multiple baby mothers? If so, you are a part of the problem.

 

[Blackking]

Do you have multiple baby mothers? If so, you are a part of the problem.

Ok, you're right.. I'll be part of the problem. What's the problem again?

 

[Elle Driver]

Ok, you're right.. I'll be part of the problem. What's the problem again?

You a baby father. Not a husband.

 

[Arianne Martell]

I really don't mind...

I was raised that a woman is supposed to take care of her household so

even if I have to pay 50% of the bills i wouldn't feel like we need to be even or some shyt like that.

I am the woman of the house