How come there are no black criminal organizations or prison gang structures?

[ChatGPT-5]

None of these tribal patty cake gangs are criminal organizations on the level of the Russians or Albanians.

And AB is food outside of prison.

Food? 30% of murders in prison are AB, yet they make up 0.1% of prison gang population.

According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the gang makes up less than 0.1% of the prison population, but it is responsible for up to 30% of murders in the federal prison system.

don't some like food to me breh. Sounds like if you got killed by AB, no one would come to your rescue despite being the majority due to lack of leadership and politics.​

 

[Bawon Samedi]

NO its on track because said developed countries don't go after said organisations.

Uh... Yes they do. Which is why the Italian mafia are in shambles and have to be lowkey all the time. Their businesses are all literally legit because of this.

Your definition of organized criminal groups seem to be prison gangs and complex street gangs like Latin Kings and Mexican street gangs in LA. Those are NOT criminal organizations.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Food? 30% of murders in prison are AB, yet they make up 0.1% of prison gang population.

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don't some like food to me breh. Sounds like if you got killed by AB, no one would come to your rescue despite being the majority due to lack of leadership and politics.​

Is this outside of prison. My point exactly.

And it depends on the prison.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Uh... Yes they do. Which is why the Italian mafia are in shambles and have to be lowkey all the time. Their businesses are all literally legit because of this.

Your definition of organized criminal groups seem to be prison gangs and complex street gangs like Latin Kings and Mexican street gangs in LA. Those are NOT criminal organizations.

The mexican mafia and NF both are organised outside of prison and tax their people and form a structure. If you do not pay tax, you're green lit. If you do not put a 13 (ode to the mafia) you're black listed and will be treated accordingly inside...

Do black gangs have such a structure? Every gang in Cali and the Southwest reports to a leader in the prison gang. I am not that familiar with the east coast but I think the Latin Kings have the same deal as well as the AB and biker gangs.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

The mexican mafia and NF both are organised outside of prison and tax their people and form a structure. If you do not pay tax, you're green lit. If you do not put a 13 (ode to the mafia) you're black listed and will be treated accordingly inside...

And yet they are not on the level of the Italians or Russians and nor does their resources come close. Yeah the MExican Mafia maybe very structured and organized which is nice, but by USA crime definition they are not a criminal organization.

Do black gangs have such a structure?

It depends on what state/region. I hear black gangs in the south are very structured.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Also black organized crime seems to slip in the music industry. Trick Trick and J Prince anyone?

 

[ChatGPT-5]

And yet they are not on the level of the Italians or Russians and nor does their resources come close. Yeah the MExican Mafia maybe very structured and organized which is nice, but by USA crime definition they are not a criminal organization.



It depends on what state/region. I hear black gangs in the south are very structured.

Eme is def an organisation otherwise they would not be under Rico. Nice try though.

what gangs in the south are under structure?

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

The mexican mafia and NF both are organised outside of prison and tax their people and form a structure. If you do not pay tax, you're green lit. If you do not put a 13 (ode to the mafia) you're black listed and will be treated accordingly inside...

Do black gangs have such a structure? Every gang in Cali and the Southwest reports to a leader in the prison gang. I am not that familiar with the east coast but I think the Latin Kings have the same deal as well as the AB and biker gangs.

They arnt organized outside of prison as much as you're making them out to be. Certain gangs are more organized than others outside the pen, yea but thats true for any gang not just Mexican ones...Norteno street gangs fued with other norteno gangs and the same goes for sureno gangs on the streets.. And NF doesn't run with the 13.... at all. They use 14...

 

[ChatGPT-5]

They arnt organized outside of prison as much as you're making them out to be. Certain gangs are more organized than others outside the pen, yea but thats true for any gang not just Mexican ones...Norteno street gangs fued with other norteno gangs and the same goes for sureno gangs on the streets.. And NF doesn't run with the 13.... at all. They use 14...

True, but all Norte gangs pay tax to NF prison gangs and same with 13 gangs. IF an NF leader says eliminate (insert) due to a shot caller, they follow suit, this means they are organized. If a mexican mafia member says, today we are going to kill nikkas, the yard will erupt in a riot. If they say "kill blacks on venice beach" the gangs in the area have to do it. Are there any black gangs that follow prison leaders that say such things?

 

[Dzali OG]

People on this site often say, "We're all we got..." and this is so true. We can't infiltrate the political structure of white supremacy. A black guy who rises through the ranks in politics is so thoroughly washed before he gets there, he is of no help to black organized crime.

This country watch black people making moves VERY closely! While Russians, Italians, and other whites have it much easier.

The major advantage is, whites have a home base. Whether it's thus country, Britian, Russia, Italy, etc. The same goes for the hispanics. They have a base outside of U.S. jurisdiction. Where the real heads are.

If Africa was right, and we developed ties there, we would see us having this organization. But the world is careful to not allow this.

 

[H.I.M.]

Despite the large population in these scenes?

How come there isn't a 'black mafia' that is structured like the mexican mafia, italian mafia or aryan brotherhood?

I know in the past there was BMF, Folk Nation, Black Guerrilla Family, Panthers, etc. What happened? What changed?

Genuine questions, I tried to do some research on why this changed after the 80's but could not find anything.

If yeen in it...you don't need know why that is (or isn't) the case.

Focus your time & energy on something a bit more constructive... on something that actually has an effect on you and your people's livelihood...

How about coming up with an hypothesis as to why you and your people are sitting on the most resource and mineral rich region in the world...but the average person in the region has a net worth of like $900.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

Food? 30% of murders in prison are AB, yet they make up 0.1% of prison gang population.

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don't some like food to me breh. Sounds like if you got killed by AB, no one would come to your rescue despite being the majority due to lack of leadership and politics.​

But you gotta realize the vast majority of the AB's victims are other white people

 

[ChatGPT-5]

If yeen in it...you don't need know why that is (or isn't) the case.

Focus your time & energy on something a bit more constructive... on something that actually has an effect on you and your people's livelihood...

How about coming up with an hypothesis as to why you and your people are sitting on the most resource and mineral rich region in the world...but the average person in the region has a net worth of like $900.

Actually my country has one of the most up and coming economies in the world despite having one of the least amount of resources on the continent, maybe you meant another country? In which case is not as much as a concern with me the same way you're not concerned with Mexico's economy.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

People on this site often say, "We're all we got..." and this is so true. We can't infiltrate the political structure of white supremacy. A black guy who rises through the ranks in politics is so thoroughly washed before he gets there, he is of no help to black organized crime.

This country watch black people making moves VERY closely! While Russians, Italians, and other whites have it much easier.

The major advantage is, whites have a home base. Whether it's thus country, Britian, Russia, Italy, etc. The same goes for the hispanics. They have a base outside of U.S. jurisdiction. Where the real heads are.

If Africa was right, and we developed ties there, we would see us having this organization. But the world is careful to not allow this.

Pretty sure Mexican organisations have been attacked ferociously. But they cut off the head and it grows back because they have rankings. You kill the leader but there's a second and third in command.