How come there are no black criminal organizations or prison gang structures?

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They are getting cut off by being put in ADX away from prison yards, tuck your fukking muppet emotions away and have actual intellectual dialogue you stupid fukking speng. The same treatment is all across the board yet one can't seem to organise or replace leadership like the other, true or false? :what:
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A criminal organisation based off religion is still a criminal organisation on the contrary the islamics are treated far more harshly because they are not citizens. try again, this time with some brains and not p*ssy juice dripping between your legs.

"Islamic organizations" are criminal now :wtf:

You one corny lame ass nikka :heh: Like I said, where are you from?
 

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Being organized has it's positives and negatives. But for the most part brothas pretty much look down upon it. We see it as turning your back on your hood for some other shyt. Being kutt as we call it is being disloyal.
 

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"Islamic organizations" are criminal now :wtf:

You one corny lame ass nikka :heh: Like I said, where are you from?
You can't be this stupid. They are legal then? Drug cartels are also legal? El Chapo is arrested that means Sinaola is done? :wtf:
 

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mafia is not one big organization they beef among themselves too
and yet they still have structure. Still have people paying them tax. :dahell:


Everyone have rivals within organisations even the U.S govt. That doesn't mean it doesn't functions under a banner.
 

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You can't be this stupid. They are legal then? Drug cartels are also legal? El Chapo is arrested that means Sinaola is done? :wtf:

Yea so you avoiding posting your location, probably from Budapest somewhere, ole wiki-historian ass nikka :mjlol:


"You can blame cacs but they try to break up islamic organisations and they still remain intact.."

This is from your post, are you retarded :wtf:
 

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Yea so you avoiding posting your location, probably from Budapest somewhere, ole wiki-historian ass nikka :mjlol:


"You can blame cacs but they try to break up islamic organisations and they still remain intact.."

This is from your post, are you retarded :wtf:
My location is right under my screenname do you not read english? :wtf:

and yes, break up an islamic terrorist organisation, the keyword is organisation since not all Muslims are ISIS, how the fukk IS THIS GOING OVER YOUR fukkING THICK SKULL??????????????????????????
 

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My location is right under my screenname do you not read english? :wtf:

and yes, break up an islamic terrorist organisation, the keyword is organisation since not all Muslims are ISIS, how the fukk IS THIS GOING OVER YOUR fukkING THICK SKULL??????????????????????????

Where does that quote have "terrorist" at :wtf: I thought your dumbass was talking about NOI

A lot of those terrorist organizations are local to the popluations so of course the US doesn't have as much of an impact there and they are cell based to my understanding so that isn't the same type of situation as North American organizations so still a dumb comparison.

I only post on mobile so I forgot locations where even under screen names :heh:
 

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Interesting, but in California aren't blacks a minority compared to the mexicans and yet still disorganised? I find the structures of the other prison gangs very interesting, but when I try to read up on Black prison gangs I can't find anything.


Compared to Mexicans, yes, they are a minority, and again like I posted earlier, Black men don't do well taking orders from others and will only unify when absolutely necessary. I think when you take that into consideration along with the history of Cali prison gangs, it will provide a better understanding. La Eme really is the prototype of organized predatory behavior behind bars (along with graduating to having influence on the street) and everyone else followed suit out of necessity, hence the rise of the big four (EmE, AB, NF, BGF). La Eme's exploits behind bars and on the streets became so legendary that southern California Hispanic gangs both idolized and feared them which is a heck of a combination. Young Hispanics were essentially being conditioned as groupies with a select few graduating to the big time. The same can be said about whites and the AB, and to a lesser extent Northern Hispanics and NF. That's not to downplay the BGF in any way, but the thing about the BGF was they were born during the latter end of the Civil Rights era with early leadership from civil rights figures. The difference between them and the other three is their goals initially were more revolutionary than criminal. La Eme never pretended to be about the betterment of Southern Hispanics. Their founders started out with the premise of terrorizing and controlling other inmates. The AB likewise wasn't into White Pride, but rather was born out of the need to organize and protect white inmates, however, their relationship with La Eme allowed them to naturally progress into a predatory force themselves. That's what makes their history (foundation!) different from the BGF. La Eme was criminal from the jump. AB was criminal not that far from the jump.

The BGF on the other hand turned into a bipolar organization with one temperament focused on revolution, the other criminal in nature. The latter of which was a late development and caused a split. When that split happened I think two things also occurred. One being the CDC was removing hardcore prison gang members from general population. The other thing was the rise of B's and C's. So white inmates and Hispanic criminals were entering prison in awe of La Eme and the AB and willing to represent on their behalf out of fear and being groupies. B's and C's coming into the system didn't have the same adoration towards BGF members who were in isolation along with AB, Eme, and NF leaders/members. Then you have the natural rivalry between B's and C's which was further agitated during the crack era. On top of that you have internal divisions among the C's. That said, the Black car is so fragmented in the bing, that its impossible in the Cali system to ever get organized. Not to mention the Bay Area aspect of it all.
 

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Where does that quote have "terrorist" at :wtf: I thought your dumbass was talking about NOI

A lot of those terrorist organizations are local to the popluations so of course the US doesn't have as much of an impact there and they are cell based to my understanding so that isn't the same type of situation as North American organizations so still a dumb comparison.

I only post on mobile so I forgot locations where even under screen names :heh:
Man I'm not talking about NOI, I was talking about ISIS type shyt. and I also mentioned cartels in the same sentence, of course the U.S govt can't stamp RELIGION, theres no way they can go after Islam but they can go after extreme organisations, which they do. But its been proven time and time again they'll just re-organise under a new name and a new structure, yesterday it was Al - Qaudea today those same men rep ISIS. Yesterday it was Escobar, today it's El Chapo, however, yesterday it was Big Meech, who is today? THAT is the question. There is none, and why?
 

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Compared to Mexicans, yes, they are a minority, and again like I posted earlier, Black men don't do well taking orders from others and will only unify when absolutely necessary. I think when you take that into consideration along with the history of Cali prison gangs, it will provide a better understanding. La Eme really is the prototype of organized predatory behavior behind bars (along with graduating to having influence on the street) and everyone else followed suit out of necessity, hence the rise of the big four (EmE, AB, NF, BGF). La Eme's exploits behind bars and on the streets became so legendary that southern California Hispanic gangs both idolized and feared them which is a heck of a combination. Young Hispanics were essentially being conditioned as groupies with a select few graduating to the big time. The same can be said about whites and the AB, and to a lesser extent Northern Hispanics and NF. That's not to downplay the BGF in any way, but the thing about the BGF was they were born during the latter end of the Civil Rights era with early leadership from civil rights figures. The difference between them and the other three is their goals initially were more revolutionary than criminal. La Eme never pretended to be about the betterment of Southern Hispanics. Their founders started out with the premise of terrorizing and controlling other inmates. The AB likewise wasn't into White Pride, but rather was born out of the need to organize and protect white inmates, however, their relationship with La Eme allowed them to naturally progress into a predatory force themselves. That's what makes their history (foundation!) different from the BGF. La Eme was criminal from the jump. AB was criminal not that far from the jump.

The BGF on the other hand turned into a bipolar organization with one temperament focused on revolution, the other criminal in nature. The latter of which was a late development and caused a split. When that split happened I think two things also occurred. One being the CDC was removing hardcore prison gang members from general population. The other thing was the rise of B's and C's. So white inmates and Hispanic criminals were entering prison in awe of La Eme and the AB and willing to represent on their behalf out of fear and being groupies. B's and C's coming into the system didn't have the same adoration towards BGF members who were in isolation along with AB, Eme, and NF leaders/members. Then you have the natural rivalry between B's and C's which was further agitated during the crack era. On top of that you have internal divisions among the C's. That said, the Black car is so fragmented in the bing, that its impossible in the Cali system to ever get organized. Not to mention the Bay Area aspect of it all.
Now THIS was an intelligent post. WOW. I learned a lot from this.

Now my question is, how about the rest of the country? How come BGF or crips or bloods didn't follow suit after the threat of EME? How come they didn't see the money rolling in and start an organisation of their own? I know at one point blacks were running things with the Folks and People nations but what happened? why didn't they evolve with the times?
 

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This thread =
Speaking on things you don't know.
If you do know, you know you're violating.
This place is not for that unless you're trolling with false info.
Putting knowledge on here can lead to problems. There are 9 guests on this thread for a reason.
of course I dont know thats why there are question marks not statements :wtf:

and no it can't lead to problems since everyone knows the underworld exists, this is the age of information not the 80s, there is not a single underground group that is not able to be googled you can even find out about secret societies on the internet, so stop. There are documentaries on the north korean govt and they don't even have the fukking internet, there are no secrets in this world anymore.
 
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